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Nullus Anxietas |
Now that I can see. I almost had that happen with my first home alarm system. I'd read up on the thing and found there was an Installer's Code. I demanded it of the alarm system company that installed it, as well as a copy of the key to the alarm panel box. They balked. I persisted. They balked. I kept at them. They eventually caved  Still: That's not the same as a One Great Secret Master Code To Rule Them All, as some are suggesting exists. (Btw: I subsequently found out the alarm company used the same Installer Code on every panel they installed!) "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I’m sorry, I was trying to edit that post and fat fingered the quote button instead. That’s what I get for trying to follow things and post in between picking up and dropping off my kids.  I was going to add that this has been an educational thread that wouldn’t have happened if Liberty hadn’t screwed the pooch. | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
Our custom home has electronic door locks. They were set to 1013, and we were slow to reprogram them because the builder needed access to finish a few things, and we were both traveling a lot for work (pre-pandemic) so workers were frequently in while we were away. Since we would have to give out a code to them anyhow I was waiting to change the codes. One night I was watching a film called "The Purge" where the main character's family home security system code was set to ... 1013. In the movie a murderous mob attacks the family, with all kinds of mayhem. That was a really bad joke on the part of the lock installer. Needless to say I immediately changed all the codes including the master reset code. | |||
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Mensch |
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Some interesting lock information: Reenforces why I always preferred mechanical lock. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
So, the bottom line is that the securest route is a mechanical lock with a combination set after you take delivery of the safe (or the lock, if you are installing a replacement lock). While it would be the absolute securest if you, yourself set the combination, it's a bit tricky for the layman, and as a1abdj indicated, it's best to let a professional locksmith make the change. This route is safer than most people might think. Imagine that you've had a mechanical lock installed on your safe by a professional locksmith. You provided to him the combination you wish to use. He sets this combination for you. A month or later, you come home and the contents of your safe is gone, but the safe has not been cut or pried open. The first thing you're going to tell the police is the name of your locksmith. It's just not worth it to a professional- to sacrifice his career and end up in jail and with a felony record, so unless someone is plain nuts, you don't have to worry. However, if you don't have your safe bolted down, there's nothing stopping our dishonest locksmith from removing the safe from your home and then opening it elsewhere. But, again, this is highly unlikely. And none of the above matters if someone cuts into the sidewall of your safe, or peels the door open, and it's easier than you may think. The thing about forced entry is that it takes time, and less importantly but perhaps still important based upon particular conditions, it's noisy. What helps in this respect is a monitored alarm system. If they don't have enough time to force the safe open before you or the police get to your home, all they'll manage to do is make a mess. | |||
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goodheart |
I had missed a1abdj’s earlier comment with links to SAVTA members and recommendation to use them. There are several near me, so I will call one to change combination. Thanks, a1abdj. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
I guess I don't know too much about these things. Will they transmit through the walls of a safe? ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Placing an AirTag inside three nested steel pots topped with a large steel frying pan offered no resistance to the UWB tracking abilities of Precision Finding.
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| Savor the limelight |
Is it safe to assume these devices connect to the wiring that goes from the keypad to the lock? | |||
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| Help! Help! I'm being repressed!  |
Here is a video where he mentions briefly how it works. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
There's about to be a severe shortage of mechanical safe locks in this country, and your locksmith will have a full schedule for quite some time. Better make hay sun while the shines, gents. Word to the wise. chopchop | |||
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Down the Rabbit Hole |
Adding an Airtag can't hurt. I changed the combination to my safe a couple of times over the years. The last time I tried to change the combination, I made a mistake and had to call a locksmith for help. The locksmith said someone in a neighboring county had their safe stolen after crooks ran a chain through a window and pulled the safe through the wall. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Res ipsa loquitur |
On Guns Utah today, they had a LEO that said ALL the gun safe manufacturers respond like Liberty did. __________________________ | |||
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Adding an AirTag is a good idea but you need to remove the speaker. Same if you put on in your car or many other places. If a thief steals your item with an AirTag in it and they have an iPhone they will be able to see that there is an AirTag. They can then force it to beep making finding it very simple. There are YouTube videos showing you how to remove the speaker. | |||
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safe & sound |
Yes.
I suspect that several would, or perhaps many. I doubt all of them have or would. | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
In that case, wiring a magnetic switch or three into the harness such that the lock doesn’t get power unless magnets are placed in the proper places on the outside of the safe would defeat any magic black boxes. A hidden kill switch. | |||
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Member |
Liberty now has a page on their website you can fill out to "authorize Liberty Safe to remove any combination or reset code associated with my safe from their records". I gotta wonder if they will actually do it. How will I really know? How can it be truly confirmed? I don't trust these bastards. Link _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
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I'm honestly surprised they even asked Liberty. Historically, we'll ask the owner for the combination and if they don't provide it, the safe gets cut open. | |||
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