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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Why do all the fake bullshit part of it when you don’t even believe in the first place? I will never understand.

Not too hard to understand. A marriage does not involve only the two people in it, there are relatives and others who have a stake in it, and their religious sensitivities are worthy of consideration. Even complete strangers have a perspective on a marriage if only to respect the bond that a man and a woman share.

Of course, there are millennia of ceremonial traditions that are expected to be observed in society as well. Would you toss these out as fake bullshit?

I don't think that any particular religious adherence is necessary for those entering a marriage, and not being Churchy doesn't mean one's life is worth any less than those who are.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

you could have done for fifty bucks, and a pen at the courthouse if doing it for legal purposes, taxes, property ownership, etc

May 18, 1979, I knocked off work at noon. Picked my lady up at her office, went to the courthouse with a few friends, and did the deed. It has stuck pretty well, 46 years this coming May.

In news from across the pond. . .

The French have lost their minds -

“French gynaecologist suspended for refusing to treat trans woman

https://www.thetimes.com/world...rans-woman-ldtcjtsbz

Snippets from the article -

Dr Victor Acharian, who sparked a media storm after telling a patient he only treated ‘real women’, has been barred from practising for a month

A French gynaecologist has been barred from practising for a month because he refused to examine a transgender patient on the grounds that he was only qualified to treat “real women”.

“I have no skills to take care of men, even if they have shaved their beards and they come and tell my secretary that they have become women. My gynaecological examination table is not suitable for examining men,” Acharian wrote.

Too bad the sensible doctor didn’t have his ESEE 5 immediately handy to make the necessary changes first before commencing a proper exam!!