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Available at Walmart. Any forum members using Hart 20v tools? Available through Walmart. I need two batteries for my old Craftsman 19.2v drill, last 26+ year old battery died today. Easier and quicker to get Hart drill and battery and charger at Walmart.

Your opinion counts.

Replacement batteries for Craftsman are 7ah.

I only know one guy who uses the Hart Brand, he swears by them and he has the money to buy top of the line tools.





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Posts: 8541 | Location: Arkansas  | Registered: November 06, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Made overseas, quality likely ok for average use. Of course even Craftsman isn’t what it use to be.

One can go to Harbor Freight and still have options from cheap to better.

It comes down to planned use & budget.

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Posts: 8541 | Location: Arkansas  | Registered: November 06, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have had good luck with Ryobi 18v. Seem durable enough and I don’t baby them… also have a Dewalt mini and like it a lot but not at 3x the Ryobi prices.
 
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For normal DIY use, I'd avoid Hart and go with Ryobi. I have a couple Ryobi 18v power tools, and they are decent and perform well enough. And they won't give you any problems. However, if you need more durable batter power tools with longer battery life between recharges, then you need to move up to Dewalt, and if need more performance and durability than that, then I'd go with Milwaukee or Makita.

I'm already investe4d in Milwaukee and have no complaints, they have help up on big, HD home projects and backyard construction, and perform well in my automotive driveway DIY maintenance schenanigans.

IF I were to start over however, I would consider Makita, as I think I like their ergos and engineering a little better than Milwaukee, though I don't have much hands on with them to know for sure.

So I'd avoid Hart and just go with Ryobi, unless you're doing a large DIY project with long runs with the tools without any mercy, in which case I'd step it up one more brand.

For a while I was using an 18V Ryobi drill, and it wasn't able to handle it on a large project, so I got a Milwaukee and was gtg after that (though I did wear out a factory chuck and replaced it with a better quality professional grade chuck).

So I only know about these brands, and can't comment on a head to head comparison of Hart vs Ryobi, but I do know Ryobi is good enough for light regular use at home, and you can get them at any Home Depot store for a really good price.

In fact I have 3 Ryobi power tools, and still use them, but when I need real power and durability for non-stop all day HD work, I grab my Milwaukee tools.




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Possibly not many, since Ryobi and Dewalt are heavily used by DIYers across the board.

However, it sounds like you just want a drill. The Hart drill you're considering will be light years ahead of the old Craftsman drill your replacing, and if the price is lower than the Ryobi, why not.

I just asked perplexity.ai, and here's what it said:

Hands-on reviews generally put Ryobi slightly ahead, but not by a wide margin. Hart often gets described as close enough for casual DIY use, with some reviewers saying Hart can even feel more powerful or better in a few specific tool tests, while Ryobi tends to win on overall polish, ecosystem maturity, and consistency.

If your friend likes Hart and he can easily buy better brands, AND he doesn't buy everything else at the bottom of the brand lines, I'd say that says something, and would trust that judgement.

I'm interested in learning now that you're seeking other's experience with this brand, I see them all the time in Walmart.




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Off topic but I’m done with DeWalt. My 18v drill still works fine but one of the batteries will no longer take a charge. Went to order one, no good. Now DeWalt has replaced them with a 20v system. So I need to buy a battery, a charger and an adapter to use the 20v battery with my 18v drill. Translated to out of pocket, about 200 dollars. Drill originally cost me around 120, 200 dollars to keep it doesn’t seem to be a good decision.

Knockoff batteries on Amazon, hit or miss. I did that with a Black and Decker hedge trimmer, was not impressed.

So, will probably donate the DeWalt, the one good battery and the charger to Habitat for Humanity and go with Milwaukee as a replacement.


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If the batteries are compatible,(voltage AND amperage) and physical interface is thr same should work fine. you can also ch3xk the wattage for expected life.

everything I've seen review wise has been, " It gets the job done"


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Any HART Tool users?

Looks like you need to be the guinea pig and let us know how it goes. I have never even heard of that brand. When I read the title I was thinking of HART communication protocol and HART communicators used in the I/E world.
 
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I have never even heard of that brand.

They are sold at Walmart. https://www.walmart.com/browse...984_PowerTools_week7 This is all I know about them, unfortunately.
 
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I'm very heavily invested in the Milwaukee ecosystem. If I was starting over though, I would probably go with Hart, or more likely one of the Harbor Freight lines. My Milwaukee tools have been great, but I'm not a particularly hard user. The cheaper tools would work fine for me, and the cost difference has gotten truly absurd.




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I understand the question is about Hart tools. Have you considered Amazon chinesium Craftsman replacement batteries? $32 gets a pair of them.

I would be afraid that in a couple years Walmart will abandon Hart and then you are in the same place. In the meantime you are saddled with a lesser tool.


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I would be afraid that in a couple years Walmart will abandon Hart and then you are in the same place. In the meantime you are saddled with a lesser tool.


Walmart already has.
The discontinuation of the HART business further supports our ability to deliver our medium-term internal profitability objectives with additional potential upside in the following years.

https://toolguyd.com/hart-tools-leaving-walmart/
 
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I got a newer Craftsman 19.2 volt battery from a guy at church. Problem solved for now. At my age I'm not going to spend high dollars on a Pro grade drill.





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I have a HART hedge trimmer. It is battery and electric. I like it. It does a good job and I like that it's dual power. Priced right.

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Cordless tool purchasing decisions, for me at least, usually revolve around what battery pack standards in which I'm already invested (DeWalt 20V, Ryobi 40V). The tools themselves seem to be getting less expensive over time while battery prices never seem to ease. Eventually, perhaps when battery makers turn from making EV batteries to ones appropriate for cordless tools, the market may give us a break.

There are tons of after-market no-name battery packs available for the most popular brands, Milwaukee, DeWalt, B&D, etc. but I don't ever recall seeing one advertising Hart compatibility. I would be deterred from buying Hart on that basis alone.

Apologies for not directly addressing the OP's concerns. My point is that switching brands/platforms may well be a more effective plan than trying to resurrect a platform with faded support. With "combo kits" of the most purchased tools available at steep discounts at big box stores, you can get a decent set of tools, and maybe still have enough to go broke on the batteries.
 
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Any HART Tool users?
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I know I'm still not answering the question posed here a bunch of times, but it looks like TTI is discontinuing the Hart brand. I don't think I'd jump into a tool (battery, really) system after it's announced end of life.
 
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There are different strategies. One is to recognize that they continually increase the voltages and orphan the old stuff. It gets to the point where you can buy a kit with a charger, multiple tools, and a couple of batteries in the new higher voltage cheaper than you can get a couple of replacement batteries for your old kit in the lower voltage.

I was happily using Milwaukee until the second hammer drill defecated the bed in the middle of a several day job. The welder who was helping me said, “Yeah, they do that. I’ve gone all Dewalt and had good luck with them.” I got a Dewalt kit (drill, driver, flashlight) and kept the sawzall and circular saw from the Milwaukee kit. Different batteries, different voltages, but they still do the job.

The cordless tools are more like computers or Apple Watches. You use them for a while, then toss and replace them when they fail or are obsolete. The old days of buying really quality stuff and keeping it going forever seem to be long gone.
 
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