Problems in the Philippines

June 01, 2017, 11:24 PM

Rey HRH

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Originally posted by JoseyWales2:
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
We've been fighting them in the Philippines since at least the days of Bush 43, and Duterte's been making a big deal about the US intefering with how the Philipinos handle their problems. We'll have to wait and see what kind of opportunities open up.

General Arthur MacArthur was fighting them and it probably started before then.
The only way you win a war is by winning the war. Not declaring a truce.

For the US, it goes all the way back to when the Philippines were acquired from Spain at the end of the Spanish-American War. At the end of that war, there was the Philippine Insurrection, part of which included fighting the Moro guerrillas, which didn't end until right before WWI.

Interesting side note is that the Colt 1911 in 45acp was partially influenced by the fighting against the Moros. The Army wanted something with more stopping power than the 38 Colt revolvers.

Yep. The Moros (Moors / Muslims) put the guerilla in guerilla warfare.

One of their contributions to the English language is amok: One who runs amok; in Malay and Moro/Philippine culture, one who attempts to kill many others, especially expecting that they will be killed themselves.

"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.

June 01, 2017, 11:29 PM

46and2

Duarte could simply accuse them of drugs and go about murdering them indiscriminately.

Apparently he likes them.

June 01, 2017, 11:31 PM

corsair

'The Muslim Problem' has been an ongoing issue on the PI ever since Islam's arrival in the 14th century to the southern islands of Mindanao. OEF-P was the 'unknown front' were the US had close to 1000 troops committed to fighting Islamic terrorism in the PI from '01-'16. While our presence isn't quite as large any more, we still have operations going on hunting down Abu Sayef and various other aligned groups.

The latest attack in Manila is not known if it's criminal related or, actually Islamic related. Organized crime and large scale violent attacks are all too common in the PI. Various groups have 'claimed allegiance' to ISIS or, Al Quida with a highly visible attack, hoping they'll receive outside funding source and help their legitimacy as being 'connected bad-asses'. The vast majority of these attacks is simply criminals. Corruption is a major problem in the PI, not unusual for military leaders and police to sell-off equipment and keep the money or, utilize their subordinates as their own personal force to extort and bully others around.