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Baroque Bloke
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I hope Italy leaves the EU and those insufferable twats in Brussels can suck it.

If Ms. Meloni is elected, and her party gains control of parliament, that might indeed portend Italian exit from the EU. Regardless, her election would certainly have the Eurocrats grinding their teeth.



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Why is it that someone on the right is always “FAR-right” but someone on the left is always just a “Progessive” or just a Democrat or whatever their party is?


 
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Why is it that someone on the right is always “FAR-right” but someone on the left is always just a “Progessive” or just a Democrat or whatever their party is?



You know why.


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German newspapers are using the term „post fascists“
 
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It’s a start

Clean up the mess and start over

Hope she wins big and all the progs shit themselves knowing the ride is over
 
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The EU is not happy about these countries shift to the right/conservatism:


EU's von der Leyen: Nice country you got there Italy, be a real shame if something happened to it

They have “tools” to deal with the likes of Hungary, Poland and now Italy you see Roll Eyes


 
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Matteo Salvini, the head of the League and a part of Meloni's conservative alliance, denounced her comments as "shameful arrogance".

"What is this, a threat?" he wrote on Twitter. "Respect the free, democratic and sovereign vote of the Italian people!"


Indeed.

Damn, the balls on these EU busy body tyrants. Just get bent.

The EU is like the world's biggest and worst HOA.


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“ROME, Sept 25 (Reuters) - A right-wing alliance led by Giorgia Meloni's Brothers of Italy party looked set for a clear majority in the next parliament, exit polls said on Sunday after voting ended in an Italian national election.

The polls, if confirmed, would give Italy its most right-wing government since World War Two, with Meloni expected to become the country's first woman prime minister…”

Full Reuters article:
https://www.reuters.com/world/...-winning-2022-09-25/



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THIS HERE is exactly why the EU is trying to threaten her. She threatens THEM!

Check out this video of her laying it out, it's got English captions

I think I'm in love with this chick, it's only 2:14 min but she nails it going after these globalists.

Giorgia Meloni speech


 
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Our family is pretty much 50/50 Italian-Irish. If my core life beliefs are God, Family, Country, Job in that order, and ANYONE wants to label me as an extreme right-wing Fascist, then two things...1) they don't know the first f---ing thing about the definition of "Fascist", and 2) they can go right ahead and call me that. I'm like whats-his-name...I don't give a f---.

Looks like Signora Meloni won her election...



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I think I'm in love with this chick, it's only 2:14 min but she nails it going after these globalists.

Giorgia Meloni speech


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That speech is excellent. Just truth, and delivered with passion.


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I played it for my wife, and she is now madly in love with Giorgia Meloni. She thinks it's the best political speech she's ever heard.

There is also a speech she gave in English at CPAC February 2022.



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THIS HERE is exactly why the EU is trying to threaten her. She threatens THEM!

Check out this video of her laying it out, it's got English captions

I think I'm in love with this chick, it's only 2:14 min but she nails it going after these globalists.

Giorgia Meloni speech

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I think I'm in love with this chick, it's only 2:14 min but she nails it going after these globalists.
Very nice.

She refers to "Chesterton". That's G.K. Chesterton, and she is quoting him from Heretics Essay no. 20. Published in 1905. Rather prophetic.

"Truths turn into dogmas the instant that they are disputed. Thus every man who utters a doubt defines a religion. And the skepticism of our time does not really destroy the beliefs, rather it creates them; gives them their limits and their plain and defiant shape. We who are Liberals once held Liberalism lightly as a truism. Now it has been disputed, and we hold it fiercely as a faith. We who believe in patriotism once thought patriotism to be reasonable, and thought little more about it. Now we know it to be unreasonable, and know it to be right. We who are Christians never knew the great philosophic common sense which inheres in that mystery until the anti-Christian writers pointed it out to us.

The great march of mental destruction will go on. Everything will be denied. Everything will become a creed. It is a reasonable position to deny the stones in the street; it will be a religious dogma to assert them. It is a rational thesis that we are all in a dream; it will be a mystical sanity to say that we are all awake. Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer. We shall be left defending, not only the incredible virtues and sanities of human life, but something more incredible still, this huge impossible universe which stares us in the face. We shall fight for visible prodigies as if they were invisible. We shall look on the impossible grass and the skies with a strange courage. We shall be of those who have seen and yet have believed."
 
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Thanks, Para. I hadn't seen the full quote, it makes my hair stand on end.


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I think I'm in love with this chick, it's only 2:14 min but she nails it going after these globalists.
Very nice.

She refers to "Chesterton". That's G.K. Chesterton, and she is quoting him from Heretics Essay no. 20. Published in 1905. Rather prophetic.

"Truths turn into dogmas the instant that they are disputed. Thus every man who utters a doubt defines a religion. And the skepticism of our time does not really destroy the beliefs, rather it creates them; gives them their limits and their plain and defiant shape. We who are Liberals once held Liberalism lightly as a truism. Now it has been disputed, and we hold it fiercely as a faith. We who believe in patriotism once thought patriotism to be reasonable, and thought little more about it. Now we know it to be unreasonable, and know it to be right. We who are Christians never knew the great philosophic common sense which inheres in that mystery until the anti-Christian writers pointed it out to us.

The great march of mental destruction will go on. Everything will be denied. Everything will become a creed. It is a reasonable position to deny the stones in the street; it will be a religious dogma to assert them. It is a rational thesis that we are all in a dream; it will be a mystical sanity to say that we are all awake. Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer. We shall be left defending, not only the incredible virtues and sanities of human life, but something more incredible still, this huge impossible universe which stares us in the face. We shall fight for visible prodigies as if they were invisible. We shall look on the impossible grass and the skies with a strange courage. We shall be of those who have seen and yet have believed."


Prophetic indeed. I lie awake at night sometimes wondering how we got here. I'm pretty sure I know the answer. I am even more certain that we will get out out of it. I don't know how much more pain we will have to endure to get there but I am sure we will because ii just isn't sustainable. . Seeing changes like this is what recharges me. I almost wrote it gives me hope, but hope is not a tactic. So let these misguided wastes keep pushing their progressive shit. If it has to get worse to make it better, I'm in for the pain. November will be a good barometer.


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That's pretty incredible seeing the new Italian leader quoting Chesterton, a veritable hero to true American and English conservatives.

To paraphrase from a recent "Dilbert" comic, I don't know if I love her, but I'm getting there.


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Meloni's comments on Macron:




https://truthsocial.com/users/...s/109078323204724195

Youtube version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhXyjnbl8lA




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By now I’ve seen a read and few things about the new Italian PM, Meloni. As Tucker voiced it, she believes in “God, Family, and Country,” so she’s labeled a disciple of Il Duce and the media is replete with marching fascists. She strikes me as smart and sensible. I wish her much success.


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