So in my beach vehicle thread it seems like the 2012-2018 Wrangler was the most popular recommendation at a budget of $12k-14K.

I am wondering what a threshold of miles for a buying a used one is? The 3.6l V6 seems like a good motor. I have seen several in the 120k to 150k for miles in that budget. Thoughts? it depends on the model and 2dr vs 4dr too. I would prefer less miles. Maybe 100k+-?

Are the 2011 and earlier models a no go?

I would prefer a manual vs auto but way more AT units. Is a 100k unit with a manual tranny due for a clutch job?

I need more education. Thanks guys

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I have a ‘12 with 156k.Bought it new with 500 miles.

The original oil cooler and filter housing is plastic, they leak. Replace with a Dorman aluminum one BUT despite the oil pressure and coolant temperature switches/sensors come on it either transfer the old ones or replace with genuine Jeep ones. About a month after mine was replace it started throwing a SES light. Scanned, indicated excessive oil pressure, 100 psi at idle and 40 psi key on engine off. Think we found the problem…

The automatic trans oil pans are garbage. Replace it with a Mercedes Benz 5 speed A.T. One, better rustproofing and it has a drain plug as a bonus. M-B makes the trans for Jeep. Brake life is iffy, you’ll replace the rears before the fronts.

Radio, if you have a non touch screen one and lose AM or FM reception but the CD player and the aux Jack still work, just replace the radio head. Jeep dealers have an exchange program, I was quoted 450 plus labor, about 650 out the door. Dealers will tell you you cannot change to a factory touch screen, you can but with a couple warnings. There are two different data streams, low speed and high speed. Wranglers, square body Liberty’s and some of the minivans use the high speed data models. They will not interchange law to high or high to low. 2010/2011 they started requiring a security code to unlock the radio, if you’re on good terms with your local dealer they can get that code for you.I did the same thing to my Wrangler in ‘19 and mourn ‘12 Liberty got a Chrysler minivan radio this summer, I scored at the local pull a part for thirty dollars and called a friend at the dealer to get the unlock code. Just be prepared, the backlighting for the controls depending on the donor may be a different color, the Liberty is green and the backlighting on the radio is blue but for thirty bucks we’ll live with it.

I’m not a “lift guy”, I’m concerned about driveshaft angles, joint and cv life anf there’s always the “death wobble” worry when vehicle geometry changes.

Watch for body rust, I’ve developed corrosion below the right taillight. I have a new panel to be cut and replaced, bodywork is astronomical but I hate rust holes so that’s going to get done this spring.

One thing, the later models, maybe 2015 Jeep changed the oil requirements to 5W-20 from 5W-30. I got into a p****** match twice with the service writer at the closest dealer to me about using 20 instead of 30 and made them change it again on 5e spot. The writer argued, I said “Show me the TSB regarding its use in 2012’s and I’ll go away” He couldn’t show it to me. I’m a PITA as I was in GM dealership parts for close to fifty years and if I wouldn’t gamble or guess on a customer’s car I sure wasn’t going to to that only own vehicle especially when the warranty was expired.


Email me if you have any more questions and I’ll try to answer them.

We had a '16 model 4 door Rubicon convertible with six speed. It was fun car to drive, enjoyed the comradery and duck trading among other Wrangler owners.

Driven conservatively think it got about 23 mpg. Mechanically only had to replace a speed sensor on one of the rear brakes.
Maintenance on it was surprisingly easy. We did have to replace the radio, the wife insisted it have a backup camera. But, we continued to have issues with the radio-that probably had more to do with radio installation rather than the car…

We traded it in last year with about 100k miles, think we got $16k for it.

The biggest negative, especially with the convertible option, even when up, the road noise was bordering on deafening. The top was somewhat of an ordeal to put up or down; as result we didn’t use it all that often. If I was to get another, I’d get the removeable hardtop.

Looks like 2007-08 and 2012 and maybe 2018 are the ones to avoid?

My sister in law has a 2018 JK. She bought it new and it’s been a constant source of problems. After 60k miles the problems really escalated. It’s paid off so she keeps it, in spite of all the trouble and money it’s cost.

Actually at this point my ‘12 has been pretty trouble free.

The plastic oil cooler/filter housing, all the Pentastar 3.6’s use that no matter minivan, pickup, Charger/Challenger.

The rust issue, I’ve never seen another JK up here in Michigan rust at that spot.As it was a dealer trade vehicle I suspect there was some paint or body work that was not disclosed prior to the trade. The door hinges do have a problem with paint adhesion, not uncommon on JK’s.

2012’s did have a special policy warranty extension on one of the cylinder heads, think it was up to 150k. I’m well past that mile mark.

Actually in the thirteen years I’ve owned it, less problems than I had in the eight years of my Sierra’s ownership for what that’s worth. That “gem” by 90k had a cam and lifters, a transmission and a steering rack. And that’s not counting all the small failures along the way, there were a lot.

I just sent a 2014 with 90Kon it to my daughter. It cost money to own, I'm past the point of doing my own work. It needed a radiator, oil cooler, blend door actuator, clock spring and some other things. The engine was fine, as was the auto trans, transfer cases a etc.

Mine was lifted and did a bit of rock crawling and a lot of desert/forest roads. Before I sent it to my daughter I had two shops look it over, both came to the same conclusions, within $50.00. I knew some was needed, some was comfort, cost me $3500.00 to make right.

The JK Jeep Wrangler came out in 2007. This is the first year they made the 4 door version. They also made a 2WD version for a few years so make sure you have a transfer case shift lever next to the main shifter and there is a solid axle up front. Otherwise they look no different. But prices on 2WD are far less. Always look at interior photos for the transfer case shift lever. Sometimes ad will saw 4WD when it's not. And there a 4cyl versions.

Stay away from any 4cyl Wrangler they have no power.

From 2007-2018 is the JK series. For YM 2018 there is a JK and JL series, this is when they started making the current series, the JL. So for 2018 there is a JK and a JL version. They are totally different platforms and drive trains except for the Pentastar V6. JL has a very nice German made 8sp auto.

From 2007-2011 the V6 is the 3.8 that Chrysler used for a long time, commonly referred to as the "mini van" V6. It's reliable, decent to work on and parts nowadays are not expensive. But has less power than the Pentastar 3.6 V6.

The 2012 YM started the Pentastar V6 in the Wrangker lineup.

Note...the interior was refreshed in 2011. The exterior stayed the same from 2007-2018.

Now on that interior change, this makes the 2011 an "odd bal"l and sometimes lower pricing shows. The 2011 has the updated interior BUT has the old 3.8 V6 and 4sp auto. So you have the nicer interior but the old powertrain on 2011 YM.

2012 is the Pentastar and the 5sp auto, which is a huge improvement over the prior 4spd auto.

There is a period, sorry I forget times, that owners where finding heater cores failing and this was do to sand clogging them from the casting of the engines. Theory is that the engines were not thoroughly cleaned out to remove the excess casting sand.

As others have mentioned check for rust on frame, body panels, window frame, doors and tailgate. Also look for corrosion, not rust, on door, hood and tailgate hinges. You'll see bubbled paint. It's a two different metal issue common with JK and JL series.

Overall all the drivetrains are good. Maintenance is key. Fluid changes are a must. Plan on changing out front and rear diff fluids, OLF, transmission and the transfer case. They are easy DIY items with plenty of YT videos to show exactly how to, what fluids and filters along with exact hand tools to use.

Pentastar V6 has rocker/lifter/cam issues. If it's not maintained property proper oil and changes it will fail. And it's expensive to fix. From 2012 to like 2014/15 Jeep did do TSB and extended warranty on the heads and did a revisions of the head design to help but not fix. Listen for a heavy tapping when running at idle. Also check oil. When the rocked go they eat the cam lines and put metal in oil.

The biggest failure I've seen is the oil cooler on the Pentastar. It's common with engines with miles in them. You have to take the entire upper intake off to replaced. And you should do plugs while you're at it.

To check for oil leak stand in front of Jeep facing engine. Lean over the top and look down below where the oil filler tube goes into the oil cooler. Use a flashlight to shine some in there. If you see oil puddle under the oil cooler it's leaking. It can leak and puddle long before it starts dripping down engine. It'll also drip down the backside and come down the tranny area.

Death wobble is real. But is usually related to work out suspension parts, like ball joints and tie rods, or improperly installed lifts. So check that suspension for wear and tear. Especially if it's been modified or has a set of tall/wide tires on it.

With proper maintenance and care the Wrangler can do 200k. But unfortunately most are used and abused. Be prepared to do some maintenance and typical mechanical repairs.

There a few JK specific forums you could browse for unlimited information.

Oh and check windshields they are well known for rock chips and cracks with their vertical placement.

Enjoy the Jeep life and do the Jeep wave.

Manual or auto that's a personal preference. Both are fine. At 100k with original clutch I'd be replacing that clutch and throw out bearing.

Jeep likes to make "special editions". Each year they bring out at least one if not 2 or 3 of these editions. Mostly just cosmetic like decals, wheels and interior trim. Jeep also likes to come and go with bright color options. A lot of times these colors will only be available for one year model.

Some are Artic, Mountaineer, Dragon and Golden Eagle.

2011/2012 they did a Call of Duty MW3. It's a Rubicon edition with gaming flare.

Also 2011 was the 70th anniversary in a cool bronze color and nicely trimmed interior. The 2016 was the 75 anniversary edition in a nice green. One or both of these also has the nice steel AEV bumpers.

Except for the Rubicon edition all the models use the same drivetrain. The Rubicon will give you Dana 44 axles, front and rear electric lockers and a 4:1 transfer case for low crawl ratio. If you don't do Rubicon try to find one with the LSD rear differential.

If your into safety they JK series did introduce the side air bags in the seats. This was an Ian's never standard. So more JK's don't have them then do.

An easy way and only way to tell, if you don't have the original window sticker listing the option, is there is an air bag tag on side of front seats, outboard towards top. You can see them in pics when looking online if the pic shows the entire side of seat. Front air bags are standard of course.

So thanks to some research and comments in this thread buying a used jeep is not a process with out some serious hazard.
Not overly familiar with the brand and platform it is pretty obvious now that there are a lot of issues with these rigs that are 10 plus years old and have 100k on the clock.
My 2006 Ridgeline has 145k on the clock and needs a tune up and water pump. But is not really giving me any trouble. That is $2000 in maintenance. But should be good to go after. Looks to be a serviceable rig on the beach too. Lacking interior room is the biggest draw back. Finding a good 2 door jeep seems more doable in my price range but then I still have the interior room issue?

Several years ago I was looking for a Jeep that I could use to go back and forth to work daily, haul stuff, and flat tow behind my Motorhome.
The price of used Wranglers was out of my budget range.
I came across the Commander. I had no knowledge of this model but saw the prices for used ones were much lower than Wranglers.
I found a 2006 Limited with the Hemi. The 4x4 system is very capable, it has 3 rows of seating but is not oversized in overall length or width and the rear seats all fold down flat providing a large flat surface to haul large things.

Maybe this is not what you had on your radar but it might work for what you want.