Broward County, Arizona, Minnesota; I cannot ever recall a recount that a republican won. It seems that the other party has a lock on stealing votes and rigging elections.

Non-citizen voting; Florida, Texas, California, Arizona.

Overturned voter I.D. laws - EVERYWHERE!!!

How do we get the voting process trued and viable once again so that we can rely upon election results?

RMD

Not trying to be funny, but the process will never be 100% reliable as long as the Dems are part of it. They simply do not allow the rules to get in the way of their objective.

^^^ Bigboreshooter, is right:
... as long as the Dems are part of it.

But... that doesn't mean we can accept it either. Election day voting with a voter ID are two important things that can limit fraudulent voting.

November 13, 2018
Ending Election Fraud

Enough is enough. Election after election, boxes of Democrat ballots show up in counties run by Democratic election supervisors to benefit Democratic candidates who, once they steal their opponent’s election night victory, will join the chorus warning of Russian interference in our elections. Last time I checked, there were no Russian election officials in Palm Beach or Broward counties in Florida.

Democrats have long pushed for voting ease at the expense of voting integrity, pushing measures from voting by mail, to Motor Voter laws, to same-day registration while opposing voter ID laws which requires people to show up on election day with proof they are who they say they are. They claim Voter ID laws are designed to disenfranchise voters. So does the sudden appearance of mystery ballots days, even weeks, after elections without a documented chain of custody or certainty that other ballots weren’t destroyed or that the ballots found were cast by real, live American citizens.

One is reminded of the classic case of an arguably close stolen election, the 1960 presidential contest between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon and the vote early, vote often city of Chicago where voting was such a passion that death was no impediment to that civic duty:

At some point on election night Robert Kennedy, the candidate's brother and campaign manager, was counting electoral votes. Information was coming in quickly through the television networks but there was not much information on Illinois, a very large state. Most of Illinois was rural and traditionally Republican and the state's largest city, Chicago (then the second largest city in the country as I recall), was and remains heavily Democratic. The mayor of Chicago at the time was Richard J Daley, reputedly a powerful political boss. There was no information at all from Chicago and its suburbs at this point and it was coming in scattered from the prairie regions. Robert Kennedy wanted to know how many votes Mayor Daley and his people had counted in Chicago.

Daley was harried, dealing with precincts all over the city, trying to compile and report them at an alarming rate. His answer to Robert Kennedy's question on vote totals was reputedly, "How many votes do you need?" The campaign manager told the Mayor he'd get back to him and Mayor Daley called with a vote total about an hour later, shortly before Illinois' heavily Democratic total was reported on the three major television networks.

As election night victories seemingly slip away from GOP candidates like Martha McSally in Arizona, Brian Kemp in Georgia, and Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in Florida, one can almost hear Democrat operatives and election officials asking the same question -- how many votes does the Democrat candidate need? As in the race that put Al Franken in the Senate, recounts and lawsuits will inevitably continue until the Democrat takes the lead and then the counting will stop with nary a protest from the legacy media or the Russians.

Take the little-noticed flip of a Republican congressional seat in New Mexico after a supposed election night victory was announced by local and national media for the GOP contender. This was the announcement by ABC:

Wednesday 2:18 a.m. EST -- Republican Yvette Herrell has defeated Democrat Xochitl Torres Small in New Mexico’s 2nd Congressional District, ABC News can project. Herrell is the first woman to represent the district.

Not so fast. Before the echoes of that announcement had faded, missing ballots suddenly were repeatedly found, just enough to flip the results to the Democrat. Amazingly, missing ballots are seemingly never found that give the lead to or increase it for the Republican. Herrell is not conceding the race:

In an interview on Fox News, Herrell told Judge Jeanine Pirro that after multiple media outlets called the race for her on Election Night, the secretary of state's office called her and said, "they had magically found 4,000 ballots that had not been counted."

Herrell said, about an hour later, the secretary state's office called again and said they found another 4,000 ballots.

That second batch of 4,000 was enough to flip the election to the Democrat. As Mayor Daley might say, his voice rising from a cemetery precinct, just tell me how many votes do you need? Or as Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin once reportedly observed, “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

Things like motor voter and early voting are a plague on our electoral integrity that even the Russians couldn’t dream up. Early voting is an excuse for laziness that doesn’t allow a voter to change his mind. Early voters can move to another jurisdiction or even be dead on election day. Motor voter is problematic in states that hand licenses out to illegal aliens who then can drive to the polls and vote, disenfranchising American citizens. Provisional ballots make no sense. If you can’t properly register by election day, don’t bother to show up. It is not that hard. Put down your cell phone, register, and wait for the next election. Mail-in ballots are invitations to fraud, plagued with signatures that don’t match and ballots denied depending on the election judge’s finite wisdom or political prejudice.

Just what is so hard about requiring a voter to physically show up on election day with an ID that proves they are alive, an American citizen, and who they say they are?

Photo IDs are required to board an airplane, an Amtrak train, open a bank account, buy liquor, cash checks, enter a federal building, and for a multitude of daily activities. Consider this bit of irony: when Eric Holder went to Texas to denounce the voter ID laws of that and other states, each person entering the LBJ Library where he spoke was required to present his photo IDs in order to be allowed in to hear the speech.

The empirical evidence shows that voter ID laws do not suppress minority voting. In Georgia, black voter turnout for the 2006 midterm elections was 42.9 percent. After Georgia passed its photo ID, black turnout in the 2010 midterm rose to 50.4 percent. Black voter turnout also rose in Indiana and Mississippi after they enacted their voter ID laws.

As Investors Business Daily noted in 2014, dead voters casting votes, illegal aliens voting, and people being registered to vote in multiple states is a common and documented occurrence:

The fact that many people will do anything to get out of jury duty has exposed massive fraudulent voting in Frederick County, Md., that may have been going on for years. Illegal aliens who stated they were noncitizens on jury duty forms were found to have cast votes in elections.

The Virginia Voters Alliance (VVA) cross-checked jury duty forms with individual voting records and found that hundreds of voters in that one Maryland county cast votes after reporting they were noncitizens. One in seven Maryland residents are noncitizens, so extrapolating the number of possibly illegal votes cast in recent elections over the entire state hints at possible election-changing fraud.

Maryland is one of many states that in the process of making it easier to vote has also made vote fraud easier to commit. Maryland both issues driver's licenses to illegal aliens and has a Motor Voter law that allows that license to be used to register and vote.

The VVA filed suit Friday in U.S. District Court in Maryland asserting that individuals who opted out of jury duty as noncitizens have been able to cast votes in at least three Maryland elections.

Based on the number of these unqualified voters in Frederick County, it is estimated that up to 7% of Maryland's registered voters could be illegal immigrants, enough to swing elections.

Despite the fact that there is no evidence that requiring a voter ID suppresses voter turnout among minorities, it has been used by the feds from preventing states like the battleground state of North Carolina from working to tighten voting integrity. In another 2014 editorial, IBD noted the fraud that goes on that Democrats ignore:

Last month the Rev. Al Sharpton was the keynote speaker at a rally to kick off the campaign for an Ohio Voters' Bill of Rights state constitutional amendment opposing the use of voter ID.

During the rally, he hugged one Melowese Richardson, the Hamilton County, Ohio, poll worker who was convicted of casting five votes for President Obama, as the audience cheered.

Richardson's actions were treated by the mainstream media and Democrats as a local aberration, not as evidence of widespread voter fraud and certainly not as justification for voting-integrity measures such as requiring a photo ID when registering and voting…

People move from state to state and voters die, but voting records are not often updated in a timely fashion to reflect those facts, leaving an abundance of seemingly valid voter registrations that can be used to skew the results of close elections. Only recently has cross-checking between states been done.

As Fox News has reported, a law passed last year by the North Carolina legislature required election staff to check information for North Carolina's more than 6.5 million voters against a database containing information for 101 million voters in 28 other states.

That cross-check found listings for 35,570 North Carolina voters whose first names, last names and dates of birth match those of voters who voted in other states.

A paper in the scholarly journal “Electoral Studies” suggests that as many as 2.8 million illegal aliens voted in the 2018 election:

How many non-citizen votes were likely cast in 2008? Taking the most conservative estimate (those who both said they voted and cast a verified vote) yields a confidence interval based on sampling error between 0.2% and 2.8% for the portion of non-citizens participating in elections.

Taking the least conservative measure, at least one indicator showed that the respondent voted yields an estimate that between 7.9% and 14.7% percent of non-citizens voted in 2008.

Since the adult noncitizen population of the United States was roughly 19.4 million (CPS, 2011), the number of non-citizen voters (including both uncertainty based on normally distributed sampling error, and the various combinations of verified and reported voting) could range from just over 38,000 at the very minimum to nearly 2.8 million at the maximum”…

Election day voting with a voter ID eliminates mismatched signatures, misplaced, lost in the mail, or even manufactured ballots that show up only when needed to pull a Democrat to victory. State election boards must be allowed to purge voter rolls of dead people or voters that have moved, often winding up registered to vote in multiple jurisdictions. These actions disenfranchise no one except the lazy and the stupid.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...d.html#ixzz5WjyPl8gB

National voter I.D. would be a start. It is not picture perfect, but it does weed out a lot of potential corruption. Checks and balances with poll workers need to be improved; penalties for onsite fraud need to be severe.

The current paper & mail in ballot system needs to be jettisoned and start from scratch. At the very minimum, paper ballots need to be treated like paper currency as far as design and production, and severe penalties for duplication. Having someone get a hold of tens of thousands extra ballots and making up votes does seem to be easy under the current system, along with the opposite; getting rid of tens of thousands of legitimate ballots.

And to repeat; penalties for participating in election fraud needs to be a capital crime with absolute severe penalties, worse than counterfeiting. A big problem is that election fraud is simply not taken very seriously, unless it is the Russians.

Tucker On Election Legitimacy: Questioning An Election A Republican Wins Is ‘Patriotic’, Doing It If A Dem Wins Is ‘Wrong’

Tucker Carlson pointed out the hypocrisy that comes with questioning the legitimacy of an election based on which political party won the race during his opening monologue on Monday night.

Florida Republican Senate candidate Rick Scott initially won the open seat, but days after the election, election supervisors in Broward and Palm Beach counties were still finding new — allegedly uncounted — votes. The GOP called foul two days later as supervisors allegedly refused to share where the additional ballots were originating and how many were left to count. But with the vote within half of a percent now, a recount is ongoing.

WATCH:



“Just last week, as you’ll remember, Republicans Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis defeated Democrats Bill Nelson and Andrew Gillum in the Senate and gubernatorial races there. The results seemed to be conclusive at the time, they were reported on this and every other news channel on election night, last Tuesday. And yet just six days later, it is very possible that both those Democrats will win the seats, the ones that just the other day they had lost. How did that happen, exactly?” he began.

“Well, thousands of new and uncounted ballots appeared in Florida, mostly in Democratic-leaning counties. Those ballots changed the results sufficiently to trigger a statewide recount. The recount is underway right now — the process so far is not inspiring confidence in the system. President Trump has complained about it, as have plenty of other people,” Carlson added.

“But it turns out complaining about this is not allowed, so to restate the rules, in case you’ve forgotten, when a Republican wins an election, it is fine to question the legitimacy of the process,” Carlson continued. “Democrats have been doing that since the very day Trump was elected two years ago, that is patriotic. It’s your duty. But when the Democratic Party’s power is at stake, raising any question at all about the process, is wrong. Indeed it’s nothing less than the road to dictatorship.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/1...ections-republicans/

Voter ID and fully prosecute people like Brenda Snipes who are the vote counters and are manipulating the vote. Until you make cheating a very risky business it will continue. Unfortunately we have a disgusting track record for enforcing those kinds of laws in this country.

Until we make the cheaters stop doing it for fear of the consequences if caught it will only get worse.

I have said many times. They should be allowed to put any regulation on Voting as they have on guns. Both are a right, and if it is your right to vote you must have a Photo ID. They could also require a background check. I think they already should be putting Photo ID on EBT Cards, they are used to buy drugs as much as food.

In my view, the only way to return some reasonable security to the voting process is fairly simple.

Photo ID to vote, does not necessarily have to be a photo voter ID. Photo driver's license would do.

Along with that requirement the laws that are supposed to be in place to assure election purity must be harsh for violations!

You screw with the election process and you get some choice time sharing accommodations with "big bubba". About 10 years, minimum.

The problem here, like many/most of the other problems we find in gubbermint, is that there is seldom if any real penalty for violations.

Yeah, I can hear it now. Gee, we can't have photo id requirements because poor folks can't afford them, or can't get to the place that issues them. If those same people placed as much importance on voting as they do on getting their free shit, there would be no problem.

Since the teaching of morals and ethics has largely been ended, the answer would have to be to make the penalties for violations (of all laws not just voting) severe enough that those contemplating such violations are actually SCARED to do it.

Check out the sentencing rules in many places in this country. Freaking jokes!

Murder: no fixed sentences in many cases. eg. 15 to 30 years. Out in 10. Death sentences if ever carried out take 30 years!

Loud mouth "civil rights advocates" violate various laws, including tax laws, with impunity , simply because of their skin color or political affiliations.

I'll stop now, my head is starting to hurt.

No ID, no vote. It is that simple.

Step 2- Anyone caught engaging in fraud goes to JAIL. Period. Whether you are a homeless person, or a rich member of the deep state. JAIL.

The underlying issue is that the balance of power is so tight that a small percentage of fraud can tip the balance.

In 60/40 elections, fraud or error that would throw the results would need to be massive. But when it's 50.5/49.5?

We need systems that give confidence in tight elections. Systems that ensure:
1) nobody votes other than citizens who have properly registered,
2) nobody votes more than once,
3) election rules are transparent and get followed to the letter,
4) voting machinery/systems are set up fairly and are easy for voters to use,
5) counting is done accurately, and reported quickly, and
6) records are kept for quick verification and recounting.

Fortune 500 companies close their books every 90 days to report quarterly earnings, and that happens in multiple countries, simultaneously, with audit trails. It cannot be harder to count votes in a precinct than it is to close a multi-billion dollar company. Not possible. Yet the latter happens routinely because it is felt to be important.

You'd think that elections would have the same sort of focus.

You'd think.

1) Why do they wait to "find" the ballots? Why not stick them in midstream? Some will say they won't have to face scrutiny if they don't need to use them. Well, these are certainly going to face scrutiny and if they hold up now they would have held up earlier. It is confusing...

2) This is a very simple problem to fix. We could transition to block chain technology. This would fix a ton of issues:

a) Extremely secure - assuming honesty on getting the initial account set up.
b) Easy to administrate
c) eliminates the need to go to polling places and all that occurs with that.
d) 100% verifiable by everyone involved.
e) very cost effective (although I'm sure the .gov will figure out a way to fix that.)

Imagine everyone voting in a 2 hour period and the results known in minutes. No more east coast influencing the west coast. No waiting for hours for precincts to close or disenfranchising voters due to weather issues.

No more absentee ballots. No issues with military votes (that one really pisses me off. Getting their vote right should be the very top priority)

I really like the audit path available. If an independent group with sufficient funding really wanted to do a 100% verifiable audit they can do so with no interference or help from the election commissions, or the various parties in charge.

So simple...

Blockchain technology is going to make a big change in how we do things.

Are ballots serialized? Seems that would be helpful if blocks of ballots are missing (destroyed/replaced).

No early mail in voting, unless you're in the Military deployed overseas. NO emergency voting sites days before Election day and ABSOLUTELY NONE in Democrat wards. (Maricopa county)

Both Democrat and Republican volunteers man the polling places.

Picture ID is necessary along with voter registration card.

No provisional vote at all. If your not on the list, goodbye.

And lastly, the Republican committee leaders need to grow some backbone and enforce the above.

Piece of cake. No voting rights if you receive welfare benefits. No voting rights if you are illegally in the US. No voting rights if you are a felon. No voting rights if you are not a land owner or business owner or in the military. Voter registration completed 6 months in advance. State issued ID present at polls. Voting in person only. No early voting. No e-voting. Ballots not in place within 24 hours voting day or having moved outside the chain of custody are not counted. Counting in public with three or more witnesses.



This will never happen.

I'm all for online voting, however a system has not been developed yet that would not be easily hackable.

The cybersecurity community has done a lot for research on this and still hasn't come up with a solution.

I think blockchain may be able to help here but even that hasn't had a solid success yet in my opinion.

Basically as of now, there is no Authentication, Authorization, or Auditing.

If Leftists demand licenses for gun ownership (which is a Right as we know) then it ONLY makes sense that we have a license to vote. We also need licenses to practice any religion.....

No more Goddamned absentee voting, no more Goddamned early voting. Show up at your polling place on election day and have your Goddamned ID with you.

AND NO MORE PAPER BALLOTS.

I really do think all this early voting is part of the issue.

What is up with that anyway? I understand completely if you are away on vacation, out of the area etc on Election Day, you can do an absentee ballot but what legitimate reason is there to vote early otherwise?

The fact that the Dems are the ones pushing this so hard is telling to me.

Democrats and the Rule of Lawyers

November 13, 2018

Live by pettifoggery, die by pettifoggery.

Cicero is remembered today as a great Roman orator, but few recall that he was a lawyer by trade. In fact, he first rose to public prominence by using his rhetorical skills to secure the acquittal of a man accused of patricide. Cicero’s eloquence eventually enabled him to rise to the rank of Consul, in which capacity he presided over the execution without trial of five Senators. He was exiled for this unlawful act and, at length, was himself illegally executed. There’s a lesson here for the Democrats who increasingly employ lubricious lawyers to circumvent the rule of law.

Cicero’s career, which contributed to the republic’s collapse, came to mind when Democrat Bill Nelson hired attorney Marc E. Elias — a “recount specialist” with ties to Hillary Clinton and George Soros — to sue the state of Florida over the outcome of its recent senatorial race. Elias made his intentions clear upon arriving in the Sunshine State: “We’re doing this not just because it’s automatic… we’re doing it to win.” And he does indeed know how to “win” recounts. He was the perpetrator of Al Franken’s notorious 2008 Senate “victory.” As the Washington Post put it in a 2016 profile:

Elias’s personal breakthrough came when he represented Al Franken in the recount of the 2008 Minnesota Senate race. It was the longest recount in history — eight months — and resulted in a 312-vote win for Franken. Since then, Elias has been the go-to lawyer for a string of Democrats in recounts and has never lost.

The same Post profile documents the Soros connection: “With a multimillion-dollar commitment from liberal mega-donor George Soros, Elias is challenging laws that, he argues, diminish the impact of important Democratic Party constituencies.” Not surprisingly, his arrival in Florida was taken as an indication that the Democrats plan to ignore the will of the voters in the Scott-Nelson Senate race. The Clinton connection involves a law firm at which Elias is a partner. He is a key figure behind a notorious anti-Trump dossier compiled for the 2016 Clinton campaign. Fox News reports:

Marc Elias, of Seattle-based law firm Perkins Coie, retained opposition research firm Fusion GPS which hired former British spy Christopher Steele to compile the dossier which included salacious and unverified allegations about President Trump’s visit to Russia before he was elected to the White House.

This character’s connection with that tawdry work of fiction, paid for by the Clinton campaign and used to launch the ridiculous yet dangerous Mueller investigation, doesn’t enhance his credibility. Nor does it reflect well on the motives of Senator Nelson or his adamant refusal to concede that he lost the Florida Senate race to Rick Scott. It also suggests that President Trump was on to something when he tweeted, “Democrats sent their best election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias.” It also explains Senator Lindsey Graham’s obvious outrage when he compared it to the Kavanaugh showdown:

They didn’t destroy Kavanaugh, and they’re not going to screw Rick Scott.… This liberal activist lawyer, the Clinton lawyer, went to Florida with the purpose of winning the election.… The 2018 cycle will be remembered for liberal Democrats doing whatever it takes when it comes to judges and votes to win, the law be damned.

It’s difficult to gainsay Graham on this point. The reason the Democrats tried to destroy now-Justice Kavanaugh is that they need a left-leaning Supreme Court to facilitate the machinations of their oily advocates. Having given up any pretense of simply obeying the law, the Democrats depend on their lawyers to make sure it doesn’t cause much inconvenience. Thus, the Democrat loser in the Florida gubernatorial race has also lawyered up and is mulling some sort of skullduggery. Andrew Gillum’s attorney, Barry Richard, says that he is seriously considering legal action:

I know that, in the case of Mayor Gillum, he has been reluctant to become involved in litigation. But we are receiving an increasing amount of evidence that Florida’s effort to make the (elections) statutes more efficient has been done at the sacrifice of the fundamental right to vote.… He is reviewing his options.

This is, of course, the same line of balderdash that we are getting from across the state line in Georgia. Democrat loser Stacey Abrams would have us believe that she is on a noble crusade to make sure every vote is counted. Her obvious goal is to manufacture enough mystery ballots to push the vote total for the winner, Brian Kemp, below the 50 percent mark so she can force an election “do-over” in December. Time is not on her side, nor is the math, so she and the Democratic Party of Georgia have filed a lawsuit against the new Secretary of State to delay certification of the election results.

This, if you will recall, is the same maneuver that Al Gore’s lawyers attempted in Florida 18 years ago. They sued Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris to prevent her from certifying the 2000 election results. The gambit didn’t work for Gore and it won’t work for Abrams. Her lawyers have also filed lawsuits against Chatham, DeKalb, Dougherty, and Gwinnett counties to force them to count invalid ballots. Meanwhile, her campaign manager announced Monday that the campaign had discovered 5,569 “uncounted” votes, 80 percent of which were purportedly cast for Abrams:

Here’s the breakdown of the new 5k votes that were reported yesterday from places that had been listed as 100%. And breaking: we are about to file litigation this afternoon to force the counting of provisionals and absentees.

And if you doubt that this is indeed the age of miracles, Abrams received an even higher percentage of the vote in heavily Democratic counties like Fulton and Clayton than erstwhile President Obama received in the 2008 or 2012 presidential elections. In Fulton County, for example, Obama received 64.1 percent of the vote in 2012. In the new votes found Monday, Abrams received well over 80 percent. Yet another miracle took place on Tuesday when the Abrams campaign discovered even more “uncounted” ballots, 73 percent of which were (surprise!) allegedly cast for Abrams:

Breaking: Cobb, Henry, Walker new votes in this morning, @staceyabrams won 1,282 of 1,762 (73% Abrams). Some were newly found absentee votes, despite counties being listed as 100%. Most were provisionals.

Even with these prodigious percentages, the Abrams campaign will have to do better than this if they are to pick up enough votes to trigger the runoff election. Perhaps they can get a few tips from Maricopa County in Arizona, where a lot of invalid Democratic ballots were “cured” by election officials, allowing Kyrsten Sinema to suddenly pull ahead of Martha McSally. The Arizona GOP wants access to communications between the Maricopa County recorder and Sinema’s campaign. But that would mean actually obeying the law. And that’s what Democrat lawyers are there to prevent.

As Graham put it, “In the eyes of Democrats, the law is just something to get around when it comes to winning what you want.” That’s why they’re dangerous. Our government, like the Roman republic, is based on the principle that no one is above the law. The Democrats have assiduously undermined that principle, but this is as dangerous for them as it is for us. They should consider Cicero, whose executioners had been sent by his young protégé, Octavian. The latter knew about those five executions and the former wound up with his head in a bag. Both men were above the law.

https://spectator.org/democrat...the-rule-of-lawyers/