A Male Professor Told a Female Professor a Stupid Joke. Now He Faces Disciplinary Charges.

May 08, 2018, 07:10 PM

You can have on campus seminars-- often sponsored by gender studies departments-- featuring "sex workers" talking about group sex, anal sex, bondage. But you can't say the word "lingerie?" Is that what was so terrible?

What was so terrible was that in saying "ladies lingerie" he evinced either ignorance of the way professors are permitted by the PC police to speak-- and joke-- or outright defiance of those rules.

This was about one thing: power.

She won, but it was the way a parasite may be said to win if the host organism fails to kill or eject it.

May 08, 2018, 07:36 PM

Lord Vaalic

A professor of political theory and a professor of gender studies in San Francisco for an academic conference....

You can just smell the liberal smugness

May 08, 2018, 09:38 PM

cparktd

What happened to the first swing is free?

The fairly large multinational company that I worked for made it very plain. In the training they gave us they made it clear that the "victim" was obligated to advise the offender that the behavior was unwanted or offensive and please stop. Only IF it continued after the warning did the victim have any claim. It seemed a very good way to handle it to me. Hell... saying nothing at all offends some people because you didn't acknowledge them!

May 08, 2018, 09:49 PM

Orguss

They should make a law making it illegal to talk to or look at women in academic settings or on college campuses. That'd eliminate the rapes and other offenses only men are capable of committing.

May 08, 2018, 10:19 PM

berto

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
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she filed a complaint with the International Studies Association, whose conference they were both attending.

An ISA committee found that Lebow had indeed violated the group's code of conduct.
I've gotta wonder what can the ISA possibly do? I'm not part of academia so I have no idea.

If an international assoc pulled this shit with me I'd tell them to fuck off.

They can kick him out of their club and lose his dues. That's really it. No conferences and no papers presented or published. There are other avenues for him though. I'm sure that even among this particular group of pinheads there are some who see this as totally ridiculous. He's 76 and in retirement mode as it is. He's far more accomplished than the humorless wretch who pushed this. He's a dinosaur in the ivory tower who didn't realize exactly how dirty the game has become or maybe just doesn't give a fuck. He might actually be a fun guy to have a drink with. The sniveling brat who blew this up is the reason people drink.

May 09, 2018, 10:41 AM

fatmanspencer

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Everyone has to be a victim....

... Except straight white men.

We should do a group buy on one of those 23 and me things. Then we can fight back by saying since I'm provable part minority, I have *insert not real right here* rights, and that by oppressing me, your part of the patricarchy

May 09, 2018, 10:43 AM

radioman

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Originally posted by justjoe:
This was about one thing: power.

This

May 09, 2018, 02:53 PM

berto

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Originally posted by fatmanspencer:

We should do a group buy on one of those 23 and me things. Then we can fight back by saying since I'm provable part minority, I have *insert not real right here* rights, and that by oppressing me, your part of the patricarchy

Me and a cousin actually do just that from time to time. Heads spin and smoke comes out ears especially when I play the race card. Oh, you assumed I'm white?

May 09, 2018, 05:12 PM

Tommydogg

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Originally posted by berto:
quote:
Originally posted by fatmanspencer:

We should do a group buy on one of those 23 and me things. Then we can fight back by saying since I'm provable part minority, I have *insert not real right here* rights, and that by oppressing me, your part of the patricarchy

Me and a cousin actually do just that from time to time. Heads spin and smoke comes out ears especially when I play the race card. Oh, you assumed I'm white?

My wife bought me one of those last year, I am 1 percent African. Some black folks get upset when I tell them I'm black too!

May 09, 2018, 11:12 PM

Some Shot

Who put this woman in charge of driving the elevator? "I'll push my own button. Move your fat ass."

May 09, 2018, 11:38 PM

TMats

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Last month, Richard Ned Lebow, a professor of political theory at King's College, found himself in a crowded elevator with Simona Sharoni, a professor of gender studies at Merrimack College, during an academic conference in San Francisco. Sharoni asked Lebow what floor he needed. He replied: "ladies' lingerie."

It was a stupid joke—a "standard gag line," Lebow later explained, according to The Chronicle of Higher Education. But Sharoni didn't think it was funny. And so she filed a complaint with the International Studies Association, whose conference they were both attending.

Where’s Dennis Hopper’s character from Speed when you need him? A whole elevator car full of like-minded academics in SF...missed opportunity

May 09, 2018, 11:56 PM

Dallas239

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Originally posted by berto:
https://www.simonasharoni.com/about-1/

Simona Sharoni is a feminist scholar, researcher and activist. She is Professor of Women’s and Gender Studies at Merrimack College. Sharoni holds a Ph.D. in Conflict Analysis and Resolution from George Mason University and MA and BA degrees in Counseling and Special Education from Haifa University, Israel. Prior to joining Merrimack College, she she taught at the State University of New York in Plattsburgh, the Evergreen State College and American University. She also held semester long distinguished scholar appointments at the University of Oregon and the University of Cincinnati.

Sharoni is the co-founder of Faculty Against Rape (FAR), a newly founded national organization advocating for an increased role of faculty in the struggle to confront sexual assault on college campuses. A former co-chair of the Board of Directors of the Peace and Justice Studies Association (PJSA) and its founding Executive Director, Sharoni has played a key role in advocating for the centrality of feminist perspectives to peacebuilding and conflict resolution.

A former co-chair of the Board of Directors of the Peace and Justice Studies Association (PJSA) and its founding Executive Director, Sharoni has played a key role in advocating for the centrality of feminist perspectives to peacebuilding and conflict resolution. In addition to gender justice, Dr. Sharoni’s activist experience involves primarily campus sexual assault, anti-racism work, political prisoners’ solidarity work, community organizing for justice and peace, and solidarity work with Palestinians and other oppressed groups.

She's a Jewish antisemite to boot. Big surprise.

"I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989

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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
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May 10, 2018, 05:47 AM

BillyBonesNY

He should have asked to stop at “Housware and Kitchen” floor.

May 10, 2018, 08:50 AM

bigeinkcmo

Just proves the point that having an education and being intelligent are two completely different things.

May 10, 2018, 09:59 AM

jhe888

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Originally posted by aparoche:
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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Why I pretty much keep it vanilla with anyone I don't know well. And why I don't talk to people unless I have to.

This. It was a stupid comment and he opened the door for crazy to take it to the extreme. Anybody who works in a corporate environment these days would have cringed at his comment if they were in the elevator. It’s like he was asking for HR to jump his ass.

It may be true that HR would have jumped him anywhere, but we shouldn't find ourselves in that position. The mere mention of ladies underwear shouldn't generate even mild upset, never mind outrage.

May 10, 2018, 10:14 AM

parabellum

It wasn't even a joke. It was just a silly thing to say, and only someone with an agenda would have given it a thought for even a millisecond.

Here's the humorless cunt back in 2016:

https://www.insidehighered.com...rds-about-her-career

An anti-semite apologist for Palestinians.

May 10, 2018, 10:48 AM

Dallas239

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Originally posted by parabellum:
It wasn't even a joke. It was just a silly thing to say, and only someone with an agenda would have given it a thought for even a millisecond.

Here's the humorless cunt back in 2016:

https://www.insidehighered.com...rds-about-her-career

An anti-semite apologist for Palestinians.

I hate her. Israel is probably the must egalitarian country on the planet. The Palestinians not so much. But of course she's a leftist masquerading as a feminist.

And wtf? "Co-founder of the group Faculty Against Rape." So there are faculty who are in favor of rape?

May 10, 2018, 04:03 PM

jhe888

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Originally posted by Dallas239:

And wtf? "Co-founder of the group Faculty Against Rape." So there are faculty who are in favor of rape?

They are so insufficiently against rape that they might as well be for it.

May 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

Expert308

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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by Dallas239:
And wtf? "Co-founder of the group Faculty Against Rape." So there are faculty who are in favor of rape?

They are so insufficiently against rape that they might as well be for it.

Or put another way: If you're not a member of her little group, you're a rapist.