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I have a 2008 F-150 Lariat, supercrew, 4 wheel drive with a 5.5 ft bed. It's bone stock, and I have never gotten more than 17.5 mpg at 70 mph on a flat road.

I'm a die hard blue oval guy, but if gas mileage is a big deal, in my experience, and not counting the eco-boost, GM will always beat Ford.

The other stuff is personal preference. The 5.5 ft bed doesn't bother me, because I don't haul anything, and I wouldn't have a truck that didn't have 4 doors. As I've gotten older, I've found I like nicer things. If I was buying today, I'd get another Lariat, but I can't say the next step up would be worth the money.
 
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extra cab space is very practical, unless it never rains where your at....


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The extra cab space is nice to have once in a while, but I prefer the Extended Cab/long box over the Crew cab/short box configuration. Unfortunately, many manufacturers(and I guess buyers) see it the opposite so that combination is pretty hard to find in some models.
 
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Look at the rear end gear ratios if you're concerned with fuel mileage. I bought a 2010 Tahoe 3 weeks ago. From a GM perspective, you can get 3.08, 3.23 and a 3.42 rear. The 3.08 would get the best mileage. The 3.42 ups the towing capacity from ~5,000 lbs to ~8,000 lbs over the 3.08. If you don't tow, might as well get the 3.08.

I specifically looked for a Tahoe with a 3.42 as that gets you the heavy duty towing package (oil KC4 & trans cooler KNP).

On GM vehicles, the RPO codes are inside the glove box door.
GU4 3.08
GU5 3.23
GU6 3.42

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2015 F-150 XLT Supercab 4x4 with the 3.5 ECOboost.

This is my third truck in this identical setup. I routinely average 21-24 MPG in mixed use driving.
 
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Originally posted by wolfe 21:
For those of you driving full size trucks daily, got a couple questions
1. Is 22-24 mpg too much to expect from a v8 auto 4x4 pickup doing 60 on cruise for a 15 mile commute?

2. Is the extended cab worth the extra $?

3. Do you regret getting/not getting the higher trim level? I am shopping base or maybe next tier.


1. I think you are being a bit optimistic with your choice of engine.

I have a 2015 F150, 2.7L EcoBoost engine. SuperCrew Cab, 4x4 XLT trim package. 45K+ miles with about 70-75% of it being surface streets and my cumulative average is just over 20mpg with every gallon tracked since day one.

On those tanks I am doing 80% highway, I see 22-23. I am very happy with those numbers in a Full Size truck (and yes, the F150 is “Full Size”). Living in western Washington, those numbers include a lot of hills. Flatlanders can probably do better mpg. The 2.7L has plenty of oomph. I don’t do any heavy towing, so can’t speak to it for that purpose.


2. Absolutely!

We are empty-nesters so just the two of us usually but the SuperCrew is an honest 6 passenger vehicle without cramping people or having the middle adult squished. Plenty of room in back for the dogs, groceries, gear, or whatever.


3. No, we have the XLT which I believe is one step up from base.

On principle I never buy base, seems to be the worst when retaining resale value. Also tend never to buy top trim as too much money with over priced things such as factory GPS. I can buy three Garman units with lifetime map upgrades for the cost of a factory map upgrade alone, let alone the cost of the factory unit.

That said, if you go Ford I would recommend the stereo upgrade and the “adaptive cruise control”. Those are a couple of things I would have opted for if I did it again. While probably included in the top trim level, available in mid-trim as part of a options package I imagine.






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Posts: 11420 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Getting low 20's with any 4x4 is going to be tough with any of the engine combinations, turbo 6 or V8.

Dodge and Nissan have diesel versions of the 1/2 ton truck, and you might find a better deal on a Nissan than any of the other brands. You might get close to that mileage but then you have the extra costs of maintaining a diesel.

Crew Cabs are IMHO a great thing, you can haul things inside the cab on hot or snowy days when putting them in the bed isn't a good idea.

As for trim I'd stay away from Base unless you use it for a work truck only. I'd go for one or two levels up, dealers stock up on the mid level trim packages, you rarely see base trucks.

On these larger pickups opt for one with a backup camera, makes a big difference, and those core options that make your experience better, for example in the south, AC seats are not a must but they are damn worth the money on a 100 degree day.

Right now there are a ton of deals out there on all the brands, Nissan sells the least number of pickups, might be able to get more for your same money. I prefer Fords the F150 just seem to run forever.
 
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Originally posted by Rev. A. J. Forsyth:
2015 F-150 XLT Supercab 4x4 with the 3.5 ECOboost.

This is my third truck in this identical setup. I routinely average 21-24 MPG in mixed use driving.


Don't know how you do this. The window sticker on my 2013 F150 Supercrew 3.5 Ecoboost 2WD shows 22 MPG Highway and 16 MPG City, with a combined of 18 MPG. I am by no means a lead foot, and I log every gallon of gas I put in my truck. 5 years old and 53,000 miles. My log shows at best 19-20 MPG on a pure highway trip and 17-18 MPG in normal mix driving. My fuel mileage average in the trip computer has been reading 17.9 forever.

So even at the low end of your mileage claims you are doing 16.6% better than the window sticker MPG of a 2013 model with 2WD. Thats pretty impressive and certainly an outlier compared to all the other reported MPG in this thread.

If fuel mileage were an issue on a daily driver I wouldn't buy a pickup truck. If you need a full size pickup I would plan on about 18-20 MPG MAX, and be happy if it ever got better.

Like they say though, your mileage my vary. Smile

I bought the XLT model because I wanted a bench front seat so I could fit 6 people if need be. I bought the SuperCrew so that there would actually be plenty of room for those 6 people. I didn't need leather in my truck, so no need really to go up to the Lariat or higher, although those are nice set ups. I would definitely get a SuperCab if not the full SuperCrew, having the extra interior space is very handy, as long as you don't need the 6.5 foot long bed.
 
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For those listing MPG,. what rear gear do you have? Without that, the info is meaningless.
 
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My 2015 Silverado 4x4 LT with the v8/v4 engine short box standard cab gets 15-16 mpg in town in summer. Winter it drops to 12-13 mpg in town.

On the highway in summer 22-24 mpg. Winter it is 20-22.

The best I have ever got on the best 25 mile setting was 32.1 mpg. I was driving 30 mph with a 45 mph tail wind for 45 miles.

The last 12,000 miles the avg was 18.7 mpg.
 
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Thanks for the replies. They mostly go to what I was expecting to hear. I picked the mileage as that is about what I get now, 22 winter and 24ish summer. I don't need the truck for a truck honestly. Most I will ever haul is an atv or some furniture.
I normally tend to lowered rwd vehicles that corner, but I'm finding on swing shift there are times I am out when road crews haven't been. I thought 4x4 would be a nice upgrade.
The extra cab would be just for storage. I have no wife/kids/girlfriend. No plans of that changing either. And my parents would likely be unable to get into even a stock height truck at their ages. No dog either.

And after all that, I still want one.


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I had an F150 and got between 19 and 21 on the highway.
I now have an F250 with a 5.4 no way.

I also have an Explorer with a 3.5 eco turbo.

I get about 19.5 combined, not much highway driving in that, with less than 3000 miles on it.

Not sure how that would do in an F150, Explorer is all wheel drive.


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With an '06 Silverado extended cab 6.5 ft bed and 4wd I get between 18 and 19 mpg. I'm getting that with a 3.42 rear end and stock size BFG K02's traveling 90 miles round trip every day, mostly interstate. 20mpg is probably doable if I put on lighter tires and didn't drive 80 but I like the KO2's and prefer not getting run over doing 60 on the interstate.

Is the extra cab space worth it? Absolutely! From groceries to rifle bags I put all kinds of stuff back there and under the rear seat I want out of sight and out of the weather.
 
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My 2014 Ram 1500 gets 17 average city/highway driving it without regard to fuel mileage.

Extended cab 4 door is nice. I enjoy having plenty of room to throw all my crap in the back seat or occasionally seat passengers comfortably.

I got a Laramie. The nice trim level was worth every penny. However, even work truck trim levels are nice these days.


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REAL trucks have air brakes? Wrong. For the fun of it, ask anyone who has that mentality if they ever drove a Kenworth to get a cheeseburger at the drive up window. I don't do that with the F-450 either.

With a regular cab truck, you have the advantage of a short wheelbase with the suspension geometry to turn around a much longer truck. Resulting in a turning radius that is surprising. There is also the added bonus of better approach/departure angles that would help the desired 4x4 get you where you want to go. You would also save the extra 800 - 1000 pounds of weight that would help with mileage and not get stuck as quickly.



 
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The 2018 F-150 diesel 4x4 is supposed to get 25 mpg on the highway. I'd still get the 2.7 Ecoboost for your purpose.

I'd also get the crew cab. With the seats flipped up in tbe F-150, the floor is flat and there is a ton of room. You then can leave the bed open for an ATV.

I'd suggest getting a small trailer for the ATV as getting an ATV into the truck bed can be interesting. The easiest and probably safest way I've tried getting our ATV into our truck is using the ATV's winch to pull it in.
 
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1. Probably setting your expectations a little high unless you are getting a left over 2018 Ram with their Eco Diesel or the new F-150 with their Powerstroke V-6. I've got a 2015 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost Supercrew 4x4 that is leveled with 33" BFG All Terrains and 3.55 gears. Around town I get about 17mgg. Last week's trip out to California on the highway with the cruise set at 80mph was a craptacular 14mpg. At 60mph it will get 20mpg, faster than that mileage takes a dump quickly. The one exception was Utah last summer with a tank of, "Pure gas" no ethanol added was 24mpg. Previous truck was a similar 2013 with the 5.0 V-8. That truck got 16mpg around town and 18mpg on road trips. That said the power and torque of the 3.5 Ecoboost is impressive, especially in the mountains at high altitude.

2. The extended cab is worth the money. The last standard cab I had was a 1999 F-150, traded it in less than 6 months for a Ram quad cab. Definitely worth if for secure storage, in case you need to haul people, take the dog along, etc.

3. Current truck is an XLT. My only regret with not getting a Lariat is auto 4wd is standard on the Lariat and not available on the XLT. I'd like to have the auto 4 wheel drive for when I'm up north and it is variable road conditions.




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@60 even my Crew Maxx tundra gets 21.5-22. It’s when you get over 70 when it starts to fall. It’s the 2wd 4.6 but tundras are not the best at mileage in any form.


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The extra cab space is nice to have once in a while, but I prefer the Extended Cab/long box over the Crew cab/short box configuration. Unfortunately, many manufacturers(and I guess buyers) see it the opposite so that combination is pretty hard to find in some models.


That's what I've got. 2013 Silverado, extended cab, 8ft bed. It splits time with my Mini Cooper, so gas mileage isn't the biggest concern. It's 4wd mostly because of snow and the little bit of off-pavement use it will see, it's a looooong truck and isn't going trail running. It's not a quad cab long bed dually or anything, but it's still a bitch to park it.

Picking up tools, project supplies, furniture, etc the 8ft bed is nice. Try getting 4x8 sheetrock or foam sheets home in a 6ft bed without snapping them over the tailgate or spending all your time in the parking lot securing them.
 
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2014 Ram 1500 Sport crew cab with the 5.7 V-8 and 8-speed ZF transmission. Mine has the 3.71 LSD. I get 19 mpg at 80 mph, 21.5 at 65-70. It has the cylinder deactivation that, surprisingly, is completely unnoticeable except for the green "ECO" light on the dash. If I keep my foot out of it, it stays in the green until 50-60 mph on level ground
 
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