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Originally posted by chongosuerte:

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Originally posted by bigmule:
So you bought the game as advertised in on office space...

“Jump to conclusion...” or is it the new one, “the band wagon”

Get a grip guys.
Lay off the kool-aid and pick up a big frosty mug of deity water.

Cuz nobody knows shit about what happened and no body has made any indication that is in the know about it either.

Bash Chicago and any libtard all day long, don’t give a fuck about any of them.

Please, Don’t make shit up and try to connect some garbage ass-umption/opinion as some sort
Rallying cry.

I’m going back to my shade tree now.

**But wait one second. Wtf does ICE have to do with BPD investigation...your making more bullshit made up connections.

BTW: The local judge who did protect an illegal in mass court,(sent illegal out the back door after hearing...),was de-benched and her pension was denied last I heard.


ICE can kick in doors all day long in any jurisdiction with or with out local PD.
Local PD only “might” hand over an illegal, “when in custody”.

Their is most certainly a connection. Whether it’s directly from illegals being arrested and then released from the local jails due to refusal to cooperate with ICE, or the general policies of the democrats that push, and run for election, on these ideas...

To say there is no connection is flatly wrong.

Not really worth responding to it chongo, you could link every study, finding, and stat to him, I'm guessing he'd still believe being a sanctuary City doesn't effect crime rates.

No clue if any illegals were involved in this specific crime, but having illegals in your city increases crime period, of the crimes they commit 100% are avoidable, by them not being there. Granted the vast percentage of illegals are not committing crimes other than illegal entry, identity theft, fraud, violation of employment laws, violation of driving laws, and tax evasion. That is still a pretty extensive list of crimes though, that they commit every single day by their mere presence. You could argue they are nonviolent crimes too, buy they are not victimless.

Additionally just being a sanctuary city means you support many other things that directly lead to crime. I can't think of a city with sanctuary laws on the books that is a super safe city. More illegals most certainly leads to more crime, liberal policies from sanctuary cities leads to more crimes. Lack of consequences for violations of the law leads to people not caring if they get caught, and more crime.

There ought to be a live, up-to-date, Internet scoreboard for this, you know, like the national debt clock and all that. Chicago vs. St Louis vs. Boston, etc.

There is a pretty cool scoreboard for Chicago. https://heyjackass.com/

Like mblinky grew up in Boston, I grew up in Chicago. And like mblinky, will never go back.

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Originally posted by bigmule:
Here’s the hang up.

The OP assumes “all” the shooting are at the hands of illegals...

That’s a problem right from the get go.

Band wagon crap.


Sq your statement away so you can’t punch state sized holes in your assumption.

No where in my post did I say the shootings were at the hands of illegals maybe you should check your assumptions.

The Mayor wants a Sanctuary City, that fosters crime, the fact they’re here is a crime

The DA wants to limit the ability of ICE in the city, that coupled with her no prosecution mentality, shootings will be up, whether by homegrown shitbags or illegals.

Don’t think that I’m buying the song and dance it’s all illegals doing the crimes, the crime they’re all doing is being here at a minimum.

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Originally posted by spunk639:

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Originally posted by bigmule:
Here’s the hang up.

The OP assumes “all” the shooting are at the hands of illegals...

That’s a problem right from the get go.

Band wagon crap.


Sq your statement away so you can’t punch state sized holes in your assumption.

No where in my post did I say the shootings were at the hands of illegals maybe you should check your assumptions.

The Mayor wants a Sanctuary City, that fosters crime, the fact they’re here is a crime

The DA wants to limit the ability of ICE in the city, that coupled with her no prosecution mentality, shootings will be up, whether by homegrown shitbags or illegals.

Don’t think that I’m buying the song and dance it’s all illegals doing the crimes, the crime they’re all doing is being here at a minimum.

Some stats: about 25% of all federal prisoners are illegals. In New York City, I believe that 35% of all murder suspects were illegals. I believe in California it is almost 50% of the convicted murderers in prison are illegals.

Here are some stats from Sharyl Attikisson's article ( One in Five US Prison Inmates is a 'Criminal Alien')

For starters, 91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala. There were more than 730,000 criminal aliens in U.S. or state prisons and local jails during the period measured. They accounted for 4.9 million arrests for 7.5 million offenses. (The numbers, according to the GAO: 197,000 criminal aliens in federal prisons, arrested 1.4 million times for 2 million offenses, between 2011 and 2016; 533,000 in state or local facilities between 2010 and 2015, representing 3.5 million arrests for 5.5 million offenses.) The arrests include allegations of more than 1 million drug crimes, a half-million assaults, 133,800 sex offenses and 24,200 kidnappings. Even more serious, the imprisoned illegal immigrants, over a five-year period, had been arrested for 33,300 homicide-related offenses and 1,500 terrorism-related crimes. In terms of cost, federal taxpayers shelled out more than $15 billion during the period studied — or $2.5 billion a year — to keep criminal aliens behind bars in federal, state and local facilities. Many are repeat offenders. Of about 146,500 criminal aliens who finished a federal prison term, about one in six — around 24,800 — already had been imprisoned again at least once.

That is reality. The reality that EVERY big City cop knows is that rival gangs and drug dealers will shot each over over territory. The Hispanic gangs will kill each and the blacks. The black gangs will kill other blacks and Hispanics. In these sanctuary cities, the illegal "criminal" alien is picked up for weapon, assault, robbery charges and IF they serve time, instead of being deported, they are released back into the cities where they will commit more crimes.

Yes, street cops are in the "know" as far as crime goes. For example, lets look at the list for this weekend from Jackass.Com:

Wednesday 7/3
2:25p 700 N Lawndale, Humboldt Park, M/18
2:25p 700 N Lawndale, Humboldt Park, M/22
2:25p 700 N Lawndale, Humboldt Park, M/25
5:05p 6900 S Lafayette, Grand Crossing, M/31
Fourth of July
12:20a 5000 S Justine, New City, M/37
1:10a 12000 S Emerald, West Pullman, M/16
1:30a 4300 W Wilcox, Garfield Park, F/35
11:35a 3100 W Iowa, Humboldt Park, M/32
11:35a 3100 W Iowa, Humboldt Park, M/17
11:35a 3100 W Iowa, Humboldt Park, M/23
11:35a 3100 W Iowa, Humboldt Park, M/31
4:00p 2800 E 77th, South Shore, M/21
4:00p 2800 E 77th, South Shore, F/40
8:55p 4000 S Maplewood, Brighton Park, M/21
8:10p 3700 N Milwaukee, Irving Park, M/29
9:20p 5200 W Congress, Austin, M/22 (selfie)
9:40p 5100 S Damen, New City, M/18 (selfie)
9:45p 4300 S Sawyer, Brighton Park, M/31 (selfie)
11:10p 7600 S Lowe, Auburn Gresham, F/18
11:10p 12000 S Harvard, West Pullman, M/41
11:20p 3000 W Franklin, Humboldt Park, M/23
11:20p 3000 W Franklin, Humboldt Park, M/27
11:40p 8200 S South Shore, South Chicago, M/34
Friday 7/5
12:45a 7200 S Oakley, Chicago Lawn, M/22
12:45a 7200 S Oakley, Chicago Lawn, M/29
12:50a 3000 N Davlin, Avondale, M/33
1:05a 6400 S Parnell, Englewood, M/26
1:05a 6400 S Parnell, Englewood, M/33
2:10a 1600 E 67th, Woodlawn, F/18
2:10a 1600 E 67th, Woodlawn, M/18
2:10a 1600 E 67th, Woodlawn, F/20
2:10a 1600 E 67th, Woodlawn, M/26
2:10a 1600 E 67th, Woodlawn, M/33
2:45p 900 N Lavergne, Austin, M/37
2:45p 900 N Lavergne, Austin, F/32
2:55a 4200 S Princeton, Fuller Park, F/22
2:55a 4900 W Rice, Austin, M/34
4:00a 2900 W Augusta, West Town, M/20
4:45a 6100 S Eberhart, Woodlawn, M/46
5:30a 3100 W Franklin, Humboldt Park, M/26
7:00p 345 N Laramie, Austin, M/40
7:00p 345 N Laramie, Austin, M/64
Saturday 7/6
1:45a 3300 W Maypole, Garfield Park, M/25
1:45a 3300 W Maypole, Garfield Park, M/32
3:40a 6200 W Fullerton, Belmont Cragin, M/32
5:00a 3400 W Fulton, Garfield Park, M/32
5:00a 3400 W Fulton, Garfield Park, M/22
3:00p 100 W 89th, Washington Heights, M/37
4:05p 400 W Division, Near North Side, M/22 (story)
8:20p 2200 E 93rd, Calumet Heights, M/44
9:00p 300 W 63rd, Englewood, M/53
9:10p 4600 S King, Grand Boulevard, F/30
9:10p 4600 S King, Grand Boulevard, M/33
9:10p 4600 S King, Grand Boulevard, M/35
9:10p 4600 S King, Grand Boulevard, F/46
11:40p 5300 S Hoyne, New City, M/24
11:40p 5300 S Hoyne, New City, M/34
Sunday 7/7
1:05a 9100 S Luella, Calumet Heights, F/14
1:10a 600 W 61st, Englewood, F/25
1:10a 600 W 61st, Englewood, M/25
1:10a 600 W 61st, Englewood, M/27
1:10a 600 W 61st, Englewood, M/37
2:15a 1500 S Homan, North Lawndale, M/28
3:45a 5600 S Paulina, Englewood, F/21
3:45a 5600 S Paulina, Englewood, F/22
3:45a 5600 S Paulina, Englewood, M/31
3:45a 5600 S Paulina, Englewood, F/32
8:05a 5100 W Fulton, Austin, M/41
8:05a 5100 W Fulton, Austin, M/51
9:00a 4900 W Newport, Portage Park, M/24
11:30a 9500 S Calumet, Roseland, M/12 (selfie)
11:50a 800 N Harding, Humboldt Park, M/11
2:25p 1600 N Narragansett, Austin, M/36
5:55p 300 S St. Louis, Garfield Park, M/23

Lets look at the opening shootings for the weekend, a group of males shot at 2:25pm on N Lawndale in Humboldt park. Now I am not a Chicago cop, I am a St. Louis cop but I can almost bet that the next group shooting at 11:35a the next day at W. Iowa in Humboldt Park was a retaliation for the earlier shooting. Keep looking at that list, odds are any group shooting followed by another group shooting a couple hours later is a reprisal for the first shooting.

Fact: Sanctuary Cities/States results in murder victims that could have been prevented if the criminal alien had been deported instead of protected.