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Air Conditioning experts--need advice

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August 23, 2019, 10:15 AM
PowerSurge
Air Conditioning experts--need advice
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Where are you located in SC?


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August 23, 2019, 11:35 AM
Excam_Man
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Let me run through what you stated:

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Air conditioning coil is freezing up.
The ducting is not sealed.

The the so called heating and cooling company told you this is why it is freezing up?


Bullshit.

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All pressures for coolant are fine.


Not likely.


Thanks for your unhelpful post.


Making sure I have the facts straight and stating the company is telling you a line of BS isn't helping?

Good luck with your home warranty company.




August 23, 2019, 11:35 AM
SgtGold
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
Our attic unit is constantly leaking cold air; as a result, the system freezes up. We've had the local AC guys here 3 times in as many months. Their solution has been to tape and mud where the leaks are coming from, but I feel this is putting band-aid on top of band-aid.

Is there a "more better" solution other than to tape & mud the leaks? BTW--the leaks are still happening in the same places we've taped & mudded before.

All other parts of the system are working just fine--maybe too good? All pressures for coolant are fine.

During the day, the unit is set to 74F; at night, 72F..and we are in South Carolina.


You have soft ducting going to and from your air handeler? No hard ducts? Soft ducts are notorious for developing leaks, and if they are up in an attic or crawl space who knows what has been chewing on them over the years.


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August 23, 2019, 12:28 PM
SIGguy229
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Originally posted by SgtGold:
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
Our attic unit is constantly leaking cold air; as a result, the system freezes up. We've had the local AC guys here 3 times in as many months. Their solution has been to tape and mud where the leaks are coming from, but I feel this is putting band-aid on top of band-aid.

Is there a "more better" solution other than to tape & mud the leaks? BTW--the leaks are still happening in the same places we've taped & mudded before.

All other parts of the system are working just fine--maybe too good? All pressures for coolant are fine.

During the day, the unit is set to 74F; at night, 72F..and we are in South Carolina.


You have soft ducting going to and from your air handeler? No hard ducts? Soft ducts are notorious for developing leaks, and if they are up in an attic or crawl space who knows what has been chewing on them over the years.


Soft ducting...checked all to make sure they were connected and not crimped
August 23, 2019, 01:56 PM
dkjbama
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Let me run through what you stated:

quote:
Air conditioning coil is freezing up.
The ducting is not sealed.

The the so called heating and cooling company told you this is why it is freezing up?


Bullshit.

quote:
All pressures for coolant are fine.


Not likely.


Thanks for your unhelpful post.


He's an HVAC contractor, and a damn good one. Our resident expert on the subject that generously donates his time to answer questions so fellow members don't get screwed by the unscrupulous or incompetent of his profession. Please don't run him off.

We lost a damn good and right generous appliance repairman this way.
August 23, 2019, 02:58 PM
Mustang-PaPa
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Originally posted by dkjbama:

He's an HVAC contractor, and a damn good one. Our resident expert on the subject that generously donates his time to answer questions so fellow members don't get screwed by the unscrupulous or incompetent of his profession. Please don't run him off.

We lost a damn good and right generous appliance repairman this way.



Very well put and the man knows all the ins and outs of it and doesn’t mind helping others but the having to constantly correct all the miss information given by the arm chair wannabe ac techs is taking a toll on the man just like it did on brad whom we have lost as a contributing member here.
I still see brads id at the bottom of the forum so he still enjoys some parts of this forum.

We have all been asked multiple times by management to stay out of topics and let the pros deal with the helping. So please everyone stop with the negative pissing matches before we run another great asset to this forum off.
August 23, 2019, 07:17 PM
SIGguy229
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Originally posted by dkjbama:
quote:
Originally posted by SIGguy229:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Let me run through what you stated:

quote:
Air conditioning coil is freezing up.
The ducting is not sealed.

The the so called heating and cooling company told you this is why it is freezing up?


Bullshit.

quote:
All pressures for coolant are fine.


Not likely.


Thanks for your unhelpful post.


He's an HVAC contractor, and a damn good one. Our resident expert on the subject that generously donates his time to answer questions so fellow members don't get screwed by the unscrupulous or incompetent of his profession. Please don't run him off.

We lost a damn good and right generous appliance repairman this way.


I saw no expertise offered in his post—-if I missed it, i apologize.
August 23, 2019, 07:33 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:

I saw no expertise offered in his post—-if I missed it, i apologize.


He can tell you what is bullshit and what is not due to him being an expert. That is the expertise he can offer if he wants. You don't know how valuable that is.

I do work for warranty companies for 1/3 of my work. The HVAC techs that work for them straight up lie to postpone repairs for full rate paying COD customers. 75% of the transfers we get from HVAC are BS, they have failed compressors that the techs misdiagnose, which is their freaking job. If an electrician can figure it out a HVAC technician should be able to.
Had one recently that forgot to put back disconnect, that was the 'failure' for attic unit, same house second unit, contactor 18-2 was clearly pulled out of A/C and just needed to be reconnected. Since there was no electrical failure I had to charge him $65 to 'repair' it or transfer it back to HVAC company to hook up two low voltage control wires. Guy elected to pay me to get it back on. Three zip ties and a few turns of a screw driver was all that was needed. It took 1.5 weeks to get through HVAC and get transferred to us.

Answer his questions and he can steer your right and clear from the BS you will be fed, that is invaluable.

ETA. Your probably didn't know his profession, and his intolerance for incompetence. I assure what may have sounded off to you was an effort to help.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
August 23, 2019, 07:38 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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He can tell you what is bullshit and what is not due to him being an expert. That is the expertise he can offer if he wants. You don't know how valuable that is.


I know how valuable that is. That is the main reason I am on this forum. People sharing their knowledge in their field and getting free professional advice in return.
August 23, 2019, 07:47 PM
jimmy123x
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by dkjbama:
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Let me run through what you stated:

quote:
Air conditioning coil is freezing up.
The ducting is not sealed.

The the so called heating and cooling company told you this is why it is freezing up?


Bullshit.

quote:
All pressures for coolant are fine.


Not likely.


Thanks for your unhelpful post.


He's an HVAC contractor, and a damn good one. Our resident expert on the subject that generously donates his time to answer questions so fellow members don't get screwed by the unscrupulous or incompetent of his profession. Please don't run him off.

We lost a damn good and right generous appliance repairman this way.


I saw no expertise offered in his post—-if I missed it, i apologize.


He did state it in two words, but here is an elaborated version. The unsealed ducting is NOT the reason it's freezing up. The pressures for the Freon are likely NOT FINE.
August 23, 2019, 09:34 PM
Haveme1or2
Too small of a unit for the space ..maybe.
My apartment ac would freeze in the hot summer ...working too hard.
August 23, 2019, 11:22 PM
ElKabong
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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Let me run through what you stated:

quote:
Air conditioning coil is freezing up.
The ducting is not sealed.

The the so called heating and cooling company told you this is why it is freezing up?


Bullshit.

quote:
All pressures for coolant are fine.


Not likely.


Thanks for your unhelpful post.


Making sure I have the facts straight and stating the company is telling you a line of BS isn't helping?

Good luck with your home warranty company.


“Home warranty company”, that’s about 75% of the problem


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August 24, 2019, 06:53 PM
Stlhead
As a havac professional, my recommendation to the OP is to hire a better service company to troubleshoot and repair the system or buy a fan. It is clear that the OP will not be able to fix the problem, and the service provider that has been out 3 times is certainly not going to fix the problem.
August 27, 2019, 08:02 AM
SIGguy229
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Originally posted by Stlhead:
As a havac professional, my recommendation to the OP is to hire a better service company to troubleshoot and repair the system or buy a fan. It is clear that the OP will not be able to fix the problem, and the service provider that has been out 3 times is certainly not going to fix the problem.


Thank you...this and other posts were helpful.

As far as Excam_Man and his expertise is concerned--I did not know his area of expertise, as that was not clearly stated in his original 3-word post which clearly lacked expertise or help.
August 27, 2019, 08:22 AM
snidera
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by Stlhead:
As a havac professional, my recommendation to the OP is to hire a better service company to troubleshoot and repair the system or buy a fan. It is clear that the OP will not be able to fix the problem, and the service provider that has been out 3 times is certainly not going to fix the problem.



Thank you...this and other posts were helpful.

As far as Excam_Man and his expertise is concerned--I did not know his area of expertise, as that was not clearly stated in his original 3-word post which clearly lacked expertise or help.


Actually, he summed up your entire problem in those 3 words quite nicely. Your HVAC company is fucking you, you just didn't know enough to know it.

You mentioned that the coils were replaced in June (although you have used confusing terminology previously).
Is that the evaporator coil in the inside-unit that was replaced (attic/basement/closet, just inside the structure, NOT what sits outside)? If so, and if it was done by the same company, your getting really fucked. I'd take odds that there is a refrigerant leak & they don't want to fix it on their dime.
You might be better off cutting your losses & having someone else look at it.
August 27, 2019, 08:28 AM
SIGguy229
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Originally posted by snidera:
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Originally posted by SIGguy229:
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Originally posted by Stlhead:
As a havac professional, my recommendation to the OP is to hire a better service company to troubleshoot and repair the system or buy a fan. It is clear that the OP will not be able to fix the problem, and the service provider that has been out 3 times is certainly not going to fix the problem.



Thank you...this and other posts were helpful.

As far as Excam_Man and his expertise is concerned--I did not know his area of expertise, as that was not clearly stated in his original 3-word post which clearly lacked expertise or help.


Actually, he summed up your entire problem in those 3 words quite nicely. Your HVAC company is fucking you, you just didn't know enough to know it.

You mentioned that the coils were replaced in June (although you have used confusing terminology previously).
Is that the evaporator coil in the inside-unit that was replaced (attic/basement/closet, just inside the structure, NOT what sits outside)? If so, and if it was done by the same company, your getting really fucked. I'd take odds that there is a refrigerant leak & they don't want to fix it on their dime.
You might be better off cutting your losses & having someone else look at it.


Your opinion is noted.