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Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings

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February 16, 2024, 08:57 PM
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Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings
The leftist/BLM narrative fell apart. Seinfeld, where are you?

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By Nikolas Lanum | Fox News
Published February 16, 2024 2:28pm EST

A Harvard professor said that "all hell broke loose" and he was forced to go out in public with armed security after he published a study that found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings.

During a sit-down conversation with Bari Weiss of The Free Press, Harvard Economics Professor Roland Fryer discussed the fallout from a 2016 study he published on racial bias in Houston policing.

The study found that police were more than twice as likely to manhandle, beat or use some other kind of nonfatal force against blacks and Hispanics than against people of other races. However, the data also determined that officers were 23.8 percent less likely to shoot at blacks and 8.5 percent less likely to shoot at Hispanics than they were to shoot at whites.

When Fryer claimed the data showed "no racial differences in officer-involved shootings," he said, "all hell broke loose," and his life was upended.



Fryer received the first of many complaints and threats four minutes after publication.

"You're full of s—t," the sender said.

Fryer said people quickly "lost their minds" and some of his colleagues refused to believe the results after months of asking him not to print the data.

"I had colleagues take me to the side and say, 'Don't publish this. You'll ruin your career,'" Fryer revealed.

The world-renowned economist knew from comments by faculty that he was likely to garner backlash. Fryer admitted that he anticipated the results of the study would be different and would confirm suspicions of racial bias against minorities. When the results found no racial bias, Fryer hired eight new assistants and redid the study. The data came back the same.

After the report was published, Fryer lived under police protection for over a month. He had a seven-day-old daughter at the time and went shopping for diapers.

"I was going to the grocery store to get diapers with the armed guard. It was crazy. It was really, truly crazy," he said.

Fryer, who became the youngest tenured Black professor at Harvard at age 30, was suspended for two years from the university in 2019 after he allegedly engaged in "unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature. He continues to deny the allegations.

At the time, then-Harvard dean Claudine Gay claimed Fryer's research and conduct with other employees "exhibited a pattern of behavior" that failed to meet expectations within the community.

"The totality of these behaviors is a clear violation of institutional norms and a betrayal of the trust," she said.

Gay resigned from her position as Harvard president in early January after widespread plagiarism allegations and criticism of her testimony to Congress, where she failed to fully clarify whether calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard's policies against bullying and harassment.

Weiss, referencing Gay in her conversation with Fryer, asked him if he believes in karma.

"I hear it's a motherf---er," he replied.

Harvard did not return Fox News Digital's request for comment,


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February 16, 2024, 09:32 PM
airsoft guy
You know what happens when boys watch nothing but porn? They start to think that dry anal is perfectly acceptable on a first date. Why would we think it's any different for the fear and panic porn pumped out by the news media? All they do is talk about systemic racism this, and police targeting blacks that. These people have had a fantasy world built for them, and fuck you for trying to show them what reality is.



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February 16, 2024, 09:54 PM
Skins2881
Hopefully he's voting independent or Republican this year after his experience.



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February 16, 2024, 10:34 PM
Pipe Smoker
Re: “Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings”

Color me not surprised.



Serious about crackers.
February 16, 2024, 11:56 PM
Rightwire
How DARE he let facts get in the way of a narrative!!!




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February 17, 2024, 01:04 AM
corsair
This professor and his study was at the center of a number of issues that arose out Harvard President Claudine Gay's failing and later resignation.

Black law professor says Harvard President Claudine Gay DESERVES attacks on her credibility because she helped destroy careers of two African-American scholars whose work contradicted her woke beliefs
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He also claimed Gay coordinated a 'witch hunt' against economics professor Roland G. Fryer Jr. after his research into the killings of unarmed black men in Houston, Texas, found no racial disparities.

'He made the mistake of undercutting the racial narrative that the Left has adopted, and as a result, Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him,' Twyman said.

'Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished.'
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February 17, 2024, 06:58 AM
mark60
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officers were 23.8 percent less likely to shoot at blacks and 8.5 percent less likely to shoot at Hispanics than they were to shoot at whites.



Doesn't that indicate a racial bias?
February 17, 2024, 07:03 AM
mrvmax
Just read that on X the other day, I have his paper saved for future reference.


Paper
February 17, 2024, 08:17 AM
Rey HRH
quote:
"I had colleagues take me to the side and say, 'Don't publish this. You'll ruin your career,'" Fryer revealed.


So much for for doing research to uncover truth.



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February 17, 2024, 08:48 AM
ensigmatic
"Trust the science," right?

This goes hand-in-hand with an observation I posted in the "401(k) plans are racist" thread: Everything is racist except actual, y'know, racism.



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February 17, 2024, 09:48 AM
bdylan
Poor guy was actually operating without any bias.
February 17, 2024, 12:44 PM
wcb6092
Can't step off the plantation. That could be deadly.


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February 17, 2024, 12:48 PM
parabellum
And these are the people who think they can't possibly be racist. It is flagrantly racist to behave as if any person of a given race must hold political and philosophical beliefs considered to be in accord with that race, with no deviation allowed.
February 17, 2024, 01:54 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by mark60:
quote:
officers were 23.8 percent less likely to shoot at blacks and 8.5 percent less likely to shoot at Hispanics than they were to shoot at whites.


Doesn't that indicate a racial bias?

Would that depend on who is pulling the trigger?

According to the Houston Chronicle:

“About 24 percent of the department's 6,147 employees are Black, surpassing the citywide percentage by 2 percent; about 35 percent are white, exceeding the 23 percent of the city population; 31 percent Hispanic or Latino, compared with 46 percent citywide; and 8 percent are Asian, surpassing 6 percent citywide, according to department data.” Link


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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
"Trust the science," right?

I’d be curious to know how much research is funded by entities looking for the truth vs. entities looking to prove a point.
February 17, 2024, 02:01 PM
Hildur
quote:
"I had colleagues take me to the side and say, 'Don't publish this. You'll ruin your career,'" Fryer revealed.



He should name names. These people need to be exposed because they're in a position to educate and spread knowledge and they would rather hide the truth that hurts their agenda.
February 17, 2024, 03:53 PM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
And these are the people who think they can't possibly be racist. It is flagrantly racist to behave as if any person of a given race must hold political and philosophical beliefs considered to be in accord with that race, with no deviation allowed.

Was listening to a podcast, where the topic was Justice Clarence Thomas, and this very issue is one of the bullet-points to his legacy.
He bucks the trend, runs counter to the Black-American Intelligencia and the narrative they've created in the world.
February 17, 2024, 04:00 PM
Pipe Smoker
^^^^^^
And they tried their hardest to besmirch his character.



Serious about crackers.
February 18, 2024, 09:03 AM
John Steed
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
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I’d be curious to know how much research is funded by entities looking for the truth vs. entities looking to prove a point.
In terms of the social "sciences" I'd say it's about 100% the latter.



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February 18, 2024, 09:30 AM
darthfuster
Woe to the culture wherein truth is outrageous.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
February 18, 2024, 09:46 AM
trapper189
^I don’t doubt that for the soft sciences. I have to wonder about the hard sciences. I read this morning that man killed off the woolly mammoth on three continents. Same with the giant sloth, giant beaver, and giant bear. If man back then was this great slayer of living things, then why did the regular sized elephants, beavers, bears, and sloths survive? Not to mention the elk, reindeer, walrus, etc. It just seemed the scientists were only looking for evidence that supported their hypothesis.

This relates to the thread topic as it points to a complete abandonment of the scientific method by universities around the world.