November 9, 1938 a pogrom erupted across Austria and Germany. Synagogues, homes and businesses were ruined. 91 Jews were killed. Military and regular german citizens were involved in the violence.

Not too many think about it or remember it but we should or it will happen again. Maybe here.

When I was a kid and learned about these atrocities I believed humanity had learned from history never to return to them. I was comforted thinking that at least the murdered could serve as a warning to the living an this their loss was not in vain. But now I see we have not learned as the components of atrocity gather under the aegis of those we trusted. God bless and keep the lost. Their suffering and sorrow is done. Their lesson is laid open for those with eyes to see.

I learned about this and the significance of this by reading a biography on Dietrich Bonheoffer.

Thank you for the reminder.

Thanks. The Nazis then forced the Jews to pay for all the damages. Seriously.

Never again!

I think there a lot on this forum that will say: Not on our watch

I'm not a Jew, but I'm there on ya'll's side.

Me too.

My grandfather told me about hiding in the barn as they destroyed the family farm. When he did, he looked like he was still scared 75+ years later.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
I'm not a Jew, but I'm there on ya'll's side.

I'm right there with you.

Never Again.

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Originally posted by roberth:

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
I'm not a Jew, but I'm there on ya'll's side.

I'm right there with you.

Me as well. I just started the book “A Train Near Magdeburg,” subtitled, “A Teacher’s Journey into the Holocaust and the Reuniting of the Survivors and Liberators, 70 Years On” by Matt Rozell. Based on this photo of a US Army patrol liberating Holocaust survivors:


https://www.amazon.com/Magdebu...b3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Years ago, I read a book, I wish I could remember the author and title.

It was about one of the concentration camps. One of the few, maybe the only one, where the prisoners, mostly Jews, united and overthrew the guards.

Does anybody know what this book is? I would like to read it again.

I don't recall the title but I've read about it. I believe it was Treblinka.

From Wiki

Day of the revolt and survivors[edit]
The uprising was launched on the hot summer day of 2 August 1943 (Monday, a regular day of rest from gassing), when a group of Germans and 40 Ukrainians drove off to the River Bug to swim.[67] The conspirators silently unlocked the door to the arsenal near the train tracks, with a key that had been duplicated earlier.[119] They had stolen 20–25 rifles, 20 hand grenades, and several pistols,[119] and delivered them in a cart to the gravel work detail. At 3:45 p.m., 700 Jews launched an insurgency that lasted for 30 minutes.[18] They set buildings ablaze, exploded a tank of petrol, and set fire to the surrounding structures. A group of armed Jews attacked the main gate, and others attempted to climb the fence. Machine-gun fire from about 25 Germans and 60 Ukrainian Trawnikis resulted in near-total slaughter. Lajcher was killed along with most of the insurgents. About 200 Jews[17][18] escaped from the camp.[q] Half of them were killed after a chase in cars and on horses.[119] The Jews did not cut the phone wires,[67] and Stangl called in hundreds of German reinforcements,[155] who arrived from four different towns and set up roadblocks along the way.[18] Partisans of the Armia Krajowa (Polish: Home Army) transported some of the surviving escapees across the river[19] and others like Sperling ran 30 kilometres (19 miles) and were then helped and fed by Polish villagers.[67] Of those who broke through, around 70 are known to have survived until the end of the war,[20] including the future authors of published Treblinka memoirs: Richard Glazar, Chil Rajchman, Jankiel Wiernik, and Samuel Willenberg.[144]


Survivor Samuel Willenberg presenting his drawings of Treblinka II in the Museum of Struggle and Martyrdom at the site of the camp. On the right, the "Lazarett" killing station.
Among the Jewish prisoners who escaped after setting fire to the camp, there were two 19-year-olds, Samuel Willenberg and Kalman Taigman, who had both arrived in 1942 and had been forced to work there under the threat of death. Taigman died in 2012[r] and Willenberg in 2016.[157] Taigman stated of his experience, "It was hell, absolutely hell. A normal man cannot imagine how a living person could have lived through it – killers, natural-born killers, who without a trace of remorse just murdered every little thing."[158] Willenberg and Taigman emigrated to Israel after the war and devoted their last years to retelling the story of Treblinka.[s][158][161] Escapees Hershl Sperling and Richard Glazar both suffered from survivor guilt syndrome and eventually killed themselves.[67] Chaim Sztajer, who was 34 at the time of the uprising, had survived 11 months as a Sonderkommando in Treblinka II and was instrumental in the coordination of the uprising between the two camps.[147] Following his escape in the uprising, Sztajer survived for over a year in the forest before the liberation of Poland. Following the war, he migrated to Israel and then to Melbourne, Australia where later in life he constructed from memory a model of Treblinka which is currently displayed at the Jewish Holocaust Centre in Melbourne.[162]

After the uprising[edit]
After the revolt, Stangl met the head of Operation Reinhard, Odilo Globocnik, and inspector Christian Wirth in Lublin, and decided not to draft a report, as no native Germans had died putting down the revolt.[163] Stangl wanted to rebuild the camp, but Globocnik told him it would be closed down shortly and Stangl would be transferred to Trieste to help fight the partisans there. The Nazi high command may have felt that Stangl, Globocnik, Wirth, and other Reinhard personnel knew too much and wanted to dispose of them by sending them to the front.[164] With almost all the Jews from the German ghettos (established in Poland) killed, there would have been little point in rebuilding the facility.[165] Auschwitz had enough capacity to fulfil the Nazis' remaining extermination needs, rendering Treblinka redundant.[166]

The camp's new commandant Kurt Franz, formerly its deputy commandant, took over in August. After the war he testified that gassings had stopped by then.[43] In reality, despite the extensive damage to the camp, the gas chambers were intact, and the killing of Polish Jews continued. Speed was reduced, with only ten wagons rolled onto the ramp at a time, while the others had to wait.[167] The last two rail transports of Jews were brought to the camp for gassing from the Białystok Ghetto on 18 and 19 August 1943.[168] They consisted of 76 wagons (37 the first day and 39 the second), according to a communiqué published by the Office of Information of the Armia Krajowa, based on observation of Holocaust trains passing through the village of Treblinka.[167][169] The 39 wagons that came to Treblinka on 19 August 1943 were carrying at least 7,600 survivors of the Białystok Ghetto Uprising.[163]

On 19 October 1943, Operation Reinhard was terminated by a letter from Odilo Globocnik. The following day, a large group of Jewish Arbeitskommandos who had worked on dismantling the camp structures over the previous few weeks were loaded onto the train and transported, via Siedlce and Chełm, to Sobibór to be gassed on 20 October 1943.[82] Franz followed Globocnik and Stangl to Trieste in November. Clean-up operations continued over the winter. As part of these operations, Jews from the surviving work detail dismantled the gas chambers brick-by-brick and used them to erect a farmhouse on the site of the camp's former bakery. Globocnik confirmed its purpose as a secret guard post for a Nazi-Ukrainian agent to remain behind the scenes, in a letter he sent to Himmler from Trieste on 5 January 1944.[167] A Hiwi guard called Oswald Strebel, a Ukrainian Volksdeutscher (ethnic German), was given permission to bring his family from Ukraine for "reasons of surveillance", wrote Globocnik; Strebel had worked as a guard at Treblinka II.[169] He was instructed to tell visitors that he had been farming there for decades, but the local Poles were well aware of the existence of the camp.[170]

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
- John 15:13



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Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
I don't recall the title but I've read about it. I believe it was Treblinka.

There was another successful uprising at the Sobibor camp in 1943, with hundreds of Jewish prisoners managing to overpower their guards and escape.

There was also an uprising at Auschwitz in 1944, with some guards killed and a crematorium blown up, but all the prisoners involved were killed.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
I'm not a Jew, but I'm there on ya'll's side.

Roger that me too.

In Nov. 1938 my mama was dating a Jewish boy from New York that was down here going to school at LSU. Everything was going good as far as she knew and when he went home to New York for a visit. She got a unsigned letter saying he could no longer see her.
She never heard from him again. It could have been that she wasn't Jewish or that she was the granddaughter of German immigrants who knows. But it was that same time in 1938. Somewhere around here we still have the letter.

I have a friend that is probably ten years older than my self. I was born in 1940 so I assume she was born in about 1930.

She was raised in pre WWII Germany and has relayed a few of her experiences. She tells of constant indoctrination by listening to Der Fuhrer on the radio at school and conversation around the table at home in the evening. She said her mother was so afraid that her father was too outspoken. He thought Hitler was a clown. I asked if she was aware of what was going on with the Jews? She said she knew something terrible was happening, but hadn't yet quite figured it out. She remembers and describes the Kristallnacht very well. She said there was significant damage in her town and she was so indoctrinated that when she saw the damage, she just knew "that the Jews had done it". She would have been about eight years old or about second grade at the time.

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