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has the MAHA movement been a failure?

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October 23, 2026, 12:27 AM
downtownv
has the MAHA movement been a failure?
Why has so little been implemented? Particularly in our food supply.


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October 23, 2026, 03:54 AM
egregore
A little early to hang the toe tag on it, isn't it?
October 23, 2026, 04:51 AM
92fstech
In terms of regulatory goals, yes, they have failed to pass a bunch of the stuff that they said they would. Heck, I'm still seeing those stupid prescription drug ads, and I was pretty excited about those going away.

That said, this is the initiative that I care the least about, because I don't need the government to tell me how to eat healthy, not to consume a bunch of processed garbage, or take unnecessary drugs. I'm an adult and can figure that out on my own. It's not that hard. Also, the subset of society that lacks the self control to do it on their own isn't going to change their behavior just because the government says to.


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October 23, 2026, 05:15 AM
trapper189
In summary:

What is MAHA?

Not going anywhere if no one cares.
October 23, 2026, 05:28 AM
AllenInAR
Make America Healthy Again I believe.


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October 23, 2026, 05:33 AM
trapper189
Yeah, it sounded familiar, I looked it up, and thought “Oh that, I forgot about that.” I suspect I’m not the only one.
October 23, 2026, 06:39 AM
ruger357
A fair amount of food companies have changed their ingredients and dyes to more natural alternatives. I guess that’s something.


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October 23, 2026, 08:19 AM
VBVAGUY
YES my opinion it has been SUCCESSFUL. I believe he is making small changes. Like removing the dyes that we all have known for years that are bad for us, yet no other person or administration has removed it from our foods. Several restaurant chains are now using TALLOW instead of seed oils. Removing and changing vaccine mandates, etc. I believe many other small positive changes will be made and implemented by this administration to MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN. God Bless !!! Smile


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October 23, 2026, 08:36 AM
downtownv
Food Ingredients everyone should watch for:
8 food ingredients worth knowing about
These are some of the best-known examples, with their uses and the reasons regulators have raised concerns.

1. Potassium bromate

Used in: bread, rolls, flour, pizza dough

Helps dough rise and improves texture. It raises concern because it has caused cancer in laboratory animals. It is banned in the EU and several other countries, while some U.S. food uses remain permitted.

2. Titanium dioxide (E171)

Used in: candy, icing, chewing gum

Makes foods look brighter and whiter. The EU banned its use as a food additive in 2022 because of concerns about possible genotoxicity (damage to genetic material). It remains permitted for certain food uses in the U.S.

3. Azodicarbonamide (ADA)

Used in: commercial bread and flour products

A dough conditioner that makes commercial baking easier. It is not authorized as a food additive in the EU, while some uses remain permitted in the U.S. Concerns include exposure to potentially harmful breakdown products.

4. BHA (butylated hydroxyanisole)

Used in: some cereals, snacks and preserved foods

An antioxidant that slows fats from becoming rancid. It has raised cancer concerns in animal studies. It is permitted for specified uses in the U.S. and is subject to different restrictions internationally; it is not accurately described as universally banned in Europe.

5. BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene)

Used in: some cereals, snacks and packaged foods

Another antioxidant used to protect fats and oils. Some regulators restrict its permitted uses or amounts. Research has raised questions about potential effects at certain exposures, but it is not banned in every country outside the U.S.

6. Red Dye No. 3 (erythrosine)

Used in: certain candies, cakes, frostings and desserts

A synthetic cherry-red coloring. The U.S. FDA has revoked its authorization for food use, but manufacturers have until January 15, 2027 to comply. It is therefore still possible to encounter products made before that deadline.

7. Propylparaben
Used as: a preservative in certain foods

This preservative has raised concerns about possible hormonal and reproductive effects. It is not authorized for food use in the EU, while certain U.S. uses have historically been allowed.

8. Artificial food colors, including Red 40 and Yellow 5

Used in: candies, cereals, drinks and snack foods

These colors are allowed in the U.S. but face differing rules overseas. In the EU, certain synthetic colors require a warning that they may adversely affect children's activity and attention. That is a warning requirement, not a ban.

Food Safety

Two important updates
- Brominated vegetable oil (BVO): Often included on older lists of additives allowed in the U.S. but banned in Europe. However, the FDA revoked its U.S. food authorization, effective August 2, 2024, with a one-year compliance period. It should no longer be treated as an ingredient currently authorized for U.S. food use.

- Red Dye No. 3: The U.S. has also moved to eliminate its food use, with the compliance deadline still approaching in January 2027.


What should you look for on American food labels?
If your goal is to reduce exposure to controversial additives, start with these label terms:
- Potassium bromate
- Titanium dioxide
- Azodicarbonamide
- BHA and BHT
- Propylparaben
- Red 3, Red 40 and Yellow 5


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October 23, 2026, 08:46 AM
ridewv
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Food Ingredients everyone should watch for:


Don't forget sugar. Try to buy food w/o added sugar or at least choose items with less of it.


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October 23, 2026, 08:59 AM
parabellum
No
October 23, 2026, 09:10 AM
12131
What VBVAGUY said. And, don’t forget, almost anything this administration does is met with legal roadblock from the GDCs. So, people really need to chill out.


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October 23, 2026, 09:19 AM
egregore
Some of these measures need congress* to pass them. Congress is the opposite of progress.

* small c intentional
October 23, 2026, 09:22 AM
nhtagmember
I would call it successful because it’s start. No one else has gotten that far. And we are only 20 months into it

Give it another 24 months.

However I think they are doing the ‘big’ things first - the insidious chemistry making up the food supply.

But agree that it would be so nice to never see an ad on television or cable for drugs of any sort. But suspect the pharma lobby has just about everyone in their pockets so with Thune in charge you can be sure that nothing will get past him. He hates America and doesn’t want to see it better.
October 23, 2026, 10:00 AM
Fly-Sig
There are some headscratchers like the FDA approving the mRNA flu vaccine gene therapy.

But there is a concerted opposition to every single thing RFK Jr says or does. Even when he says real double blind placebo controlled studies should be done, he is roasted in the media. Same when he calls for parents and doctors to work together to decide on the best choice for a particular child's care.

The deep state is strong in that department. The Pharma tentacles are deep, its money powerful.

I'd like to see faster and bigger results, sure, but there have been improvements. RFK Jr has definitely widened the allowable areas of discussion. I believe he is setting wheels in motion that will be necessary to effect changes. e.g. prior studies definitely show harms and lack of efficacy by numerous pharma products, but the media have successfully spread the message for decades that the opposite is true, to the extent that the public widely believes it fact that they are proven safe and effective. New studies will be needed before people will accept that the old science is faulty.
October 23, 2026, 10:11 AM
Opus Dei
Doritos NKD is about the only evidence I see of any effect of MAHA, and I doubt they sell that well. It doesn't help they seem to be excluded from sales or BOGO, like the regular ones.
October 23, 2026, 12:00 PM
nhracecraft
Following up on what 'VBVAGUY' and '12131' said, the State of Health in America has been undermined by the Food Lobby and the Pharma Lobby for something like 50 years, at least as far back as the original 'Food Pyramid'. Considering the legal hurdles imposed by the America Hating Left, and the entrenched bureaucracy lobby (a.k.a. the America Hating Left!), anyone that wants to measure the success or failure of MAHA based on a 20 month report card is being completely unrealistic! 'People really need to chill out' and let this this cook...It's gonna take a while. Wink


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October 23, 2026, 01:16 PM
downtownv
I also agree that there is a lot of money and pushback against what he's trying to accomplish, mostly from internal bureaucracy. I would like to see our food supply cleaned up, but that's a huge battle.


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October 23, 2026, 01:42 PM
Hamden106
Red 40 was bad for my mother. It made her heart rate go way up



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October 24, 2026, 04:35 AM
downtownv
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