Whirlpool sucks as well

November 28, 2022, 11:04 AM

Lt CHEG

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Originally posted by konata88:

In any case, I just really fail to understand why it's so hard to make a fridge, washer, dryer, dishwasher that's decent quality and reliable (and will last for 15 years). It's not like it's new or complex technologies.

It probably isn’t very hard, but American consumers won’t pay the price that doing so would require. People would rather have new products every few years even if it’s junk, just so they can say they have new appliances. Also most people shop strictly on price now, with no thoughts of the long term. They would rather pay 65% the cost of a (traditional) quality item that lasts half as long. It doesn’t matter if it’s cheaper in the long run to pay more up front, they would rather have cheap right now. Everyone thinks they have to have new, new, new and to hell with quality, because that’s what all the marketing and advertising punches into their heads. We really are in a race to the bottom.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

November 28, 2022, 11:04 AM

Angus the Kid

We bought a fridge from Costco last year. $2,000 BTW. Delivery guys delivered the new one and took the old one away. It no longer worked.

The delivery guy and I were talking and he told me he's been delivering appliances for 15 years.

He told me that the lifespan of appliances has been decreasing and that he currently sees an average of 5 years before new fridges give up the ghost.

November 28, 2022, 11:16 AM

konata88

Combining points between Angus and Cheg: $2000 every 5 years?

So, we used to pay $2000 for something that would last 20 years, now we pay the same and it lasts 5 years? What are we getting for the $2000 now? What is so "new" about fridges that we're willing to spend $2000 every 5 years.

Not directed at Angus or Cheg - just a rhetorical question to the american public. This seems like a sign that we as a culture have become too wasteful and indulgent. If this is what drives up min wage rates, we're doomed.

November 28, 2022, 12:52 PM

PASig

So far so good with the GE Cafe appliances we bought for the new kitchen. My only issue so far is the way too flimsy, flex-y and fragile feeling door on the dishwasher. You’d think for $1,200 they could build something that doesn’t feel like it’s going to bend each time I close it.