The following would seem to indicate that they are not:

• pouring rubbing alcohol on your disabled toddler and threatening to kill the child while streaming it live on Facebook is an aggravated misdemeanor
  
• the child's mother stated in an interview that she committed the act for fun
  
• despite the above, the alleged perpetrator was given a bond of only $2,000
  

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Iowa mom pours rubbing alcohol on disabled toddler, streams live on Facebook


A Davenport woman is accused of going live on Facebook on Thursday and pouring rubbing alcohol on her 2-year-old disabled child and threatening to kill the child, Davenport police said.

Darshanda Trenette McNeal, 29, is charged with one count of child endangerment.

The charge is an aggravated misdemeanor that carries a prison sentence of up to two years.

According to the arrest affidavit filed by Davenport Police Officer Jonathan Douglas, at 10:55 a.m. officers were sent to McNeal’s home regarding reports of a person pouring rubbing alcohol on her child and stating she was going to kill her child.

McNeal was streaming what she was doing live on Facebook with her cell phone, according to the arrest affidavit.

Officers were able to intervene and the child was taken to Genesis Medical Center for treatment, but did not sustain any injuries.

Iowa’s Department of Human Services was called in, police said.

During an interview with police after she was given her Miranda Rights, McNeal said at first she committed the act for an unknown reason but later stated during the interview she committed the act for fun, according to the affidavit.

McNeal was being held Thursday night in the Scott County Jail on $2,000 bond, cash or surety.

Most states have sentencing penalties for various age groups. IE-Victim under 12 yoa.

But, I think that all true assaults should be punished. And the revolving door of justice needs to be padlocked. Not only do we not lock people up well enough, we give bond to anyone and everyone. Are you a registered sex offender that refuses to comply with the registry? Not a problem, we'll just keep giving you the same bond and letting you right back out.

People like to often quote how this or that person has "paid their debt to society" but it was pennies on the dollar. That isn't a payment for the crime they committed.

No.
Murder, rape, crimes against children and the elderly should carry brutal sentences and zero bond.

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Originally posted by Poacher:
No.
Murder, rape, crimes against children and the elderly should carry brutal sentences and zero bond.

+1
And zero parole.
Indiana man accused of murdering, eating dead ex-girlfriend deemed competent for trial

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Before his arrest in 2015, Oberhansley was free on parole for a previous killing when he was a teenager, according to WAVE3.

If it took more than an anonymous phone call to CPS saying “Mr Smith is abusing his little Sally”. No proof given, but now Mr Smith is presumed guilty until he can prove his innocence to a social worker who may go ahead with charges regardless. CPS offices have an uphill battle, I understand that, but I’ve also seen instances of “We can make you jump through hoops because we can and we don’t need proof” attitudes. Every allegation should be documented so that false accusations can be equally investigated.

I would say that in this case Iowa's statute is not very well tailored to deal with this type of situation.

It is 726.6 at the following link if anyone cares to read it:

https://www.legis.iowa.gov/law...hapter=726&year=2018

Under their statute I'm not sure if they could have gotten it up to felony level unfortunately.

Laws cannot protect children against those who would harm them. I'd like to see child abusers executed, but that would only stop repeat offenses.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
I'd like to see child abusers executed, but that would only stop repeat offenses.

Works for me.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
Laws cannot protect children against those who would harm them. I'd like to see child abusers executed, but that would only stop repeat offenses.

I agree that in cases involving crimes against persons which result in serious injury or death, laws cannot adequately protect those persons and are only effective in punishing the perpetrator. In this case, it seems that the toddler and the state both got second chances. The toddler since there were no lasting injuries and the state because the perpetrator left a trail of clues and evidence which should cause great concern for the toddler's safety in the future.

Rather than taking advantage of the fact that the perpetrator live-streamed her depraved actions and statements on Facebook and charging her appropriately, she was charged with a misdemeanor and given a ridiculously low bond. Then, in an interview with police, the perpetrator stated she did this for fun? Would this not be a golden opportunity to have her held without bond pending a court-ordered psych eval and to have a thorough investigation into her background and mental health status to determine whether or not she should be allowed custody of the child?

“Bond” which is what is likely “bail” is to assure appearance at future proceedings and not as additional punishment, or a substitute therefor.

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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

While not exactly a right to bail, keeping accuseds in jail while presumed innocent ought to be avoided. Depending on the severity of the offenses, the defendant’s situation in the community, risk of flight, etc., reasonable bail ought to be allowed.

Once guilt is determined, that is another matter.

Answer to the question being asked is no.
My question would be why was she not charged with attempted murder.

My question goes back a generation - WHO was/were the irresponsible parents that raised this idiot to become a mother?

This is a classic result of sparing the rod. The grandchildren get abused through intention (in this case) or neglect.

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That's the mother who abused her own child?!

I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

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That's the mother who abused her own child?!

I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

I have to say, this saddens me. It seems that there is a common theme when we see events like the one that we are talking about.

I do not know the proper terms to use, but it seems to me that this sort of behavior is common among the black culture. I am sure that it is a cultural thing, not a racial / genetic thing. Lack of family structure, lack of education, lack of development of moral values?

I am an Old Guy. Going on 82. I remember, maybe 50 years ago, family values were very strong in the black community. There was respect for older generations. There was love and support. I saw this in the people I knew. Values have changed, morality has all but disappeared. We like to blame it on Obama, but I saw it happening before Obama -- it might have accelerated under his "leadership," but it began before that.

What happened?

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
What happened?

LBJ and the great society.

The first name speaks volumes.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
“Bond” which is what is likely “bail” is to assure appearance at future proceedings and not as additional punishment, or a substitute therefor.

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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

While not exactly a right to bail, keeping accuseds in jail while presumed innocent ought to be avoided. Depending on the severity of the offenses, the defendant’s situation in the community, risk of flight, etc., reasonable bail ought to be allowed.

Once guilt is determined, that is another matter.

I would argue that given the severity of the offense coupled with the stated desire to kill the toddler and having made a statement that she did it 'for fun', not only is $2,000 not excessive but it is instead woefully insufficient.

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
Darshanda Trenette McNeal,

Yep. Tells you all you need to know.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

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Originally posted by Fredward:
I'd like to see child abusers executed, but that would only stop repeat offenses.

Works for me.

Yep. On any day that ends in Y.