Sure, but in many areas of use, most computations that are that long DON'T just use order of operations, they have a bunch of parenthesis. With RPN, you don't have to put in any of the parenthesis.
September 25, 2019, 05:46 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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And I'll admit, after a 5 minute googling of that polish stuff you're talking about, I was able to figure it out and I think I like it better than the algebraic variety.
Can you tell time on an analog clock and operate a mimmeograph machine?
September 25, 2019, 07:11 PM
chongosuerte
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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And I'll admit, after a 5 minute googling of that polish stuff you're talking about, I was able to figure it out and I think I like it better than the algebraic variety.
Can you tell time on an analog clock and operate a mimmeograph machine?
All my watches are analog, but I’ve never had occasion to use a true mimeograph.
I do use my fingers when playing Yahtzee, though, as my 8 year old pointed out recently
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September 25, 2019, 07:13 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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All my watches are analog, but I’ve never had occasion to use a true mimeograph.
I do use my fingers when playing Yahtzee, though, as my 8 year old pointed out recently
^^ Thanks I got a kick out of that remark.
September 25, 2019, 10:20 PM
Rey HRH
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Originally posted by maladat:
For sure. This was actually a topic for an XKCD a while ago.
Very nice! That graph is worth the price of posting n this thread. Seriously. That's like a rosetta stone for me.
As I said, I do VBA and it has always been a question for me of how much vba work I am willing to put in to shave off time and remove tediousness. I used to think of it in terms of break even period, when will i break even in terms of time saved versus time spent doing the VBA work.
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September 25, 2019, 10:58 PM
9mmepiphany
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Originally posted by chongosuerte: I'll be damned. You nerds blow my mind about once a quarter, talking about something I've never heard or thought of before.
I find that mildly amusing because I was using an HP pocket calculator back in the early 70s.
It was easier to understand and no one every borrowed it twice
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September 27, 2019, 04:45 AM
f2
The 32S was a gift from my younger brother and he showed me how to use it when I opened it. So I was an RPN convert from day 1.
Looked into repair and one guy used to refurbish them (32S) but doesn't anymore. His old price was more than a 12C - so I'll probably go that route.
September 28, 2019, 03:04 AM
f2
Any recommendations on HP calculator repair that you've successfully used?
September 28, 2019, 11:42 AM
chongosuerte
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Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:
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Originally posted by chongosuerte: I'll be damned. You nerds blow my mind about once a quarter, talking about something I've never heard or thought of before.
I find that mildly amusing because I was using an HP pocket calculator back in the early 70s.
It was easier to understand and no one every borrowed it twice
I genuinely mean the appreciation, obviously the term of endearment thrown in for humor.
I can muddle through a lot of stuff. Mechanics, electrical, farming, medicine, etc. Or at least understand the basics.
But you guys, especially the IT folks, sometimes bring up subjects of which I have absolutely no knowledge, or no working knowledge. I enjoy it.
Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here.
Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN
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September 29, 2019, 08:27 AM
Pipe Smoker
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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
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Originally posted by KenS: <snip> I have both an HP35S on my desk and the free42 app on my phone. Both highly recommended.
Ken
For a smartphone calculator I’ve been using PCalc for several years. There’s a free Lite version, but I have the full feature version – a few bucks, well worth it. A plethora of selectable keyboard layouts, from basic to complex. Algebraic or RPN (selectable stack depth). RPN for me. For most keyboards you get additional function keys by rotating the phone to landscape orientation.
Its unit conversion feature “A>B”, is wonderfully extensive and convenient. And many built-in constants – Pi, etc.
Scientific or engineering, and bin, oct or hex integers.
PCalc is actively maintained – additions of new features and occasional bug fixes.
iPhone and (I think) Android.
This. I've had this iPhone app since 2010.
I have only used RPN since 1985! You can even change the layout of the keys. I fashioned mine after my HP41CV (Which I still have and still works).
Here’s an extensive (72 page) manual for PCalc. Most folks won’t need it, but if you want to really dig in…
Son of a gun! I just found this HP RPN calculator on Amazon. $60. According to one user review, the key feel isn’t great. Hope that’s wrong. The old HP41 had wonderfully good key feel.
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker: Son of a gun! I just found this HP RPN calculator on Amazon. $60. According to one user review, the key feel isn’t great. Hope that’s wrong. The old HP41 had wonderfully good key feel.
I'm still using my HP 11C from high school...even just for balancing my checking account
$60 was a lot more money back in the early 70s
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February 27, 2021, 08:39 PM
selogic
Speaking of calculators , I found my old TI86 in a cabinet out in the garage . I guess it's just a novelty now ?
February 27, 2021, 09:44 PM
straightshooter01
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: I started out with an HP25 and went to the 41 and then the 41CV or CX - with the car reader and the small strips for programs
Also had an assortment of memory modules if I recall
fun times
And a thermal printer module.
February 27, 2021, 10:59 PM
KDR
I’ve got an HP35S that I bought just for the PE exam. Haven’t used it since. I do use the i48 app on my iPhone on a daily basis. It’s a 48GX emulator that’s decent. There used to be one called m48 that was great, but the app just disappeared from the App Store one day.
I managed to lose my HP 48GX several years ago. I never would have thought that I would ever become attached to a calculator, but here I am, years later, still reminiscing over it.
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February 28, 2021, 06:44 AM
barley
HP has a 12C for both the Apple & Android phones. The cost is $15 for either version.
I still recall my first days in college where I was required to acquire a K&E Deci-Lon slide rule for some of my courses. Later that year small battery powered calculators hit the market causing quite a stir.
Having been retired now for the better part of 14 years, my needs are quite simple now. I get by just fine with a Casio fx-115W I've had for something approaching two decades. That said I rarely use the scientific functions.
Ended up with these "slap-sticks" before acquiring a decent calculator.
Way back in the day I had a Texas Instruments TI-58 with a handful of plug in modules.
Were I in the market these days I'd have no clue what to buy or recommend.This message has been edited. Last edited by: bald1,
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March 01, 2021, 08:57 AM
murphman
I love the calculator nostalgia trip you guys are taking me through. In high school in the late 70's, I rocked a Texas Instruments SR-52. It's still my favorite calculator of all time. I loved that thing. I did have a cheap RPN at one time. The RPN was fun and, as someone previously pointed out, no one ever asked to borrow it twice.
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March 02, 2021, 12:55 AM
jtedescucci
Another vote for HP. Have had & used a 41CX for well over 30 years now - and it has NEVER failed. IF you are willing to gamble you MIGHT be able to find one on one of the online auction sites.
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