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Smart Phones and Texting: Possibly rhetorical question

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October 30, 2017, 05:52 AM
PHPaul
Smart Phones and Texting: Possibly rhetorical question
When I turn my phone on in the morning, I fairly often receive a couple of texts. Because I go to bed early, they're usually from the night before.

However, since they are time-stamped as of time received, I have to figure out from context whether or not a reply is appropriate.

So, is there a technical reason texts aren't time-stamped with time sent?

Is it possible to change this?

I realize I could just leave the phone on, but that just rubs my cheap ass the wrong way.




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October 30, 2017, 06:04 AM
airsoft guy
Wow, that is cheap!

I'm sure there has to be a way to check when it was sent, but I don't know if the phone can or will automatically organize them that way. Reckon it depends on the phone.

The question is how many calories you want to burn on this? Might as well just leave it on all night, it's what I do. Of course I don't have a landline anymore, and when I did, it didnt reach to my bedroom.



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October 30, 2017, 07:07 AM
rbert0005
My texts are all time stamped.
What phone do you have?

Bob


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October 30, 2017, 07:25 AM
PHPaul
quote:
Originally posted by rbert0005:
My texts are all time stamped.
What phone do you have?

Bob


Samsung J3 Android.

The messages are all time-stamped, but by time received. If the message has been in queue overnight and I turn my phone on at 6am, the message is time-stamped 6am.




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October 30, 2017, 07:29 AM
Chowser
The phone only shows when it received it. I've had people send me texts while I watched them send it and it shows up a day later. It gets stuck in the queue and is time stamped when I receive it.

You're going to have to put your phone on silent or do not disturb when you go to sleep so that you'll see when the messages were sent.



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October 30, 2017, 07:30 AM
arfmel
Instead of turning it off, can you put it on "do not disturb"? That's what I do on my eyephone, and incoming texts get stamped with arrival time. Well, it's actually set to be on automatically at 8:30pm-5:00am.
October 30, 2017, 07:52 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
is there a technical reason texts aren't time-stamped with time sent?
I'm guessing that your phone is Android.

My iPhone shows the time originally sent, not the time that the message was received.

Hmmm... I know that I stated that correctly if the sender used an iPhone. I'm not positive, but I think it's also true if the sender used an Android.

I do not know the details of text message protocol, but extrapolating what I do know about computer data exchange, I would bet several shiny new nickels that your phone receives the text with embedded meta-data that does include the time that the text was sent. There might be an app to extract this information and display it; I don't know what is available in the Android world.



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October 30, 2017, 07:55 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
I realize I could just leave the phone on, but that just rubs my cheap ass the wrong way.
I am cheap too. Maybe I'm not braining well this morning, but what do you save by turning the phone off at night, other than a few cents to re-charge the battery?

Also -- we are not "cheap." We are "thrifty."



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October 30, 2017, 07:56 AM
darthfuster
How much extra could it possibly cost to leave the phone on?



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October 30, 2017, 08:07 AM
RAMIUS
Yeah...just keep it on.

My iPhone has been on all the time for the past 6 years.

But seriously, please tell how you're saving money by turning it off.
October 30, 2017, 08:21 AM
maladat
If you're not using it, a phone uses very little power just from being turned on.

Overnight would be something like 2 watt-hours.

At 10-15 cents per kilowatt-hour, you're talking something like 1/30th to 1/50th of a penny per night.
October 30, 2017, 08:24 AM
RAMIUS
quote:
Originally posted by maladat:
If you're not using it, a phone uses very little power just from being turned on.



Maybe his is the gasoline powered version.
October 30, 2017, 08:42 AM
PHPaul
It's not that I begrudge the fraction of a cent recharging the battery would cost, it's that I've been bitched at about turning stuff off since I was old enough to reach the light switch.

After 60-odd years, hard habit to break.

"Do not disturb" is a good idea, I'll do that. I'll also have to get into the habit of hooking up the USB cable in the morning to recharge it.




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October 30, 2017, 08:43 AM
PHPaul
quote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
quote:
Originally posted by maladat:
If you're not using it, a phone uses very little power just from being turned on.



Maybe his is the gasoline powered version.


Propane, I'm eco-friendly... Big Grin




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October 30, 2017, 08:47 AM
Orguss
When your phone goes to sleep (ie, when the screen turns off), your phone is essentially off for all practical purposes. When you physically turn off the phone, it actually charges slower than when it's left on and asleep. It's also good practice to leave the phone alone when plugged in because it is programmed to perform updates when charging but inactive.

If you do not want to be disturbed in the night, put it on silent and turn the phone face down so light from calls or messages popping up on the screen doesn't disturb you.



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October 30, 2017, 09:00 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by maladat:
If you're not using it, a phone uses very little power just from being turned on.



I turn my phone to airplane mode now at night while I'm asleep. I do it simply so the battery doesn't drain down during the night and I don't wake up to a phone at 60% or less. I don't like leaving it plugged into a charger all night because that's not good for the battery, and my phone is now close to three years old so I'm trying to save whatever capacity its battery has left.

So that's why I turn it off. I also only charge my phone to 80-85% (much better for the life of the battery) so leaving it plugged in every night doesn't work for me.


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October 30, 2017, 09:24 AM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:


My iPhone shows the time originally sent, not the time that the message was received.

Hmmm... I know that I stated that correctly if the sender used an iPhone. I'm not positive, but I think it's also true if the sender used an Android.
I don't have two iPhones to try it with right now, but that's not true when an iPhone receives a text from an Android phone. I have a hard time believing it's true iPhone to iPhone, except maybe for that god awful iMessage system.


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October 30, 2017, 09:41 AM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I don't like leaving it plugged into a charger all night because that's not good for the battery, and my phone is now close to three years old so I'm trying to save whatever capacity its battery has left.

So that's why I turn it off. I also only charge my phone to 80-85% (much better for the life of the battery) so leaving it plugged in every night doesn't work for me.


http://www.independent.co.uk/l...attery-10509096.html

Mine is plugged in every night and several year old phones have batteries that are perfectly fine.


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October 30, 2017, 09:50 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I don't like leaving it plugged into a charger all night because that's not good for the battery, and my phone is now close to three years old so I'm trying to save whatever capacity its battery has left.

So that's why I turn it off. I also only charge my phone to 80-85% (much better for the life of the battery) so leaving it plugged in every night doesn't work for me.


http://www.independent.co.uk/l...attery-10509096.html

Mine is plugged in every night and several year old phones have batteries that are perfectly fine.


Charging your phone to 100% every time as opposed to 80% will indeed wear down a battery faster over time. That's just a fact. It won't "destroy" it, it lessens the battery's capacity.


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October 30, 2017, 10:00 AM
jhe888
Just leave it on. I plug mine in at night so it can do things like back itself up and receive updates.

And it solves your time-stamp problem.

If you still have psychic distress, ask yourself if you turned your land line off at night? Or your refrigerator. Some things are meant to be left on. It isn't a light bulb.




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