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Bring back the 12 gauge with slugs

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October 27, 2025, 05:48 PM
wcb6092
Bring back the 12 gauge with slugs
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1982886417115296195

NEW: Pennsylvania police officer opens fire on a man driving a Mercedes G-Wagon after the man started ramming his car into officers.

21-year-old Dalton Lee Janiczek has been arrested and is facing attempted-m*rder charges after a routine traffic stop.

Janiczek, the son of a prominent Pennsylvania lawyer, is accused of striking an officer with his car multiple times, even when the officer was on the ground.

"Janiczek accelerated directly at the officer, attempting to hit him, and the officer discharged his firearm," the DA’s office said.

"Again, Janiczek accelerated the vehicle, this time striking the officer, causing him to fall."

"As the officer attempted to administer a tourniquet to a leg wound, the Mercedes circled back around the lot and struck the officer three more times as he laid on the ground."

Multiple officers were taken to the hospital and are in stable condition.





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October 27, 2025, 06:36 PM
DEPUTYBILL
Before I retired, my car shotgun was loaded
with 3 00 buck, 3 slugs.
October 27, 2025, 06:42 PM
fischtown7
Better yet, the Ithaca Roadblocker, if I ever find a cheap one I am buying.
October 27, 2025, 06:47 PM
ArtieS
For the life of me, I don't understand why this worm is still breathing.



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October 27, 2025, 06:49 PM
wrightd
Benelli recoil action 12 ga semi w/Brenneke Magic Slugs. Those guys aren't designed to pancake.




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October 27, 2025, 06:50 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Bring back the 12 gauge with slugs

Flawed title. I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective.

If the officer only has time to draw his sidearm, it doesn't matter whether they have a 12 gauge or an AR 15 in the weapon rack or storage vault in their cruiser. In this video, the officer could've had a Barrett 50 Cal in the cruiser's weapon rack and it would've been the same outcome.
quote:
Janiczek, the son of a prominent Pennsylvania lawyer, is accused of striking an officer with his car multiple times, even when the officer was on the ground.
Great "parenting." Give your sex trophy a $150+k car they didn't earn and make them so entitled that they turn a routine traffic stop into attempted murder.



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October 27, 2025, 07:05 PM
nhtagmember
The bad news is that the slug is still breathing

It’s too bad the problem wasn’t resolved at the scene with a more positive outcome
October 27, 2025, 07:09 PM
ElToro
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
Better yet, the Ithaca Roadblocker, if I ever find a cheap one I am buying.


That’s a hot setup. It became the Remington SP10. 3.5 inch 10 guage is nothing to fool with
October 27, 2025, 07:18 PM
wcb6092
tatortodd

quote:
Flawed title. I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective.



It might be easier for you to read a post instead of assuming what the post is about. Wink


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October 27, 2025, 07:22 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
tatortodd

quote:
Flawed title. I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective.

It might be easier for you to read a post instead of assuming what the post is about. Wink
I obviously read the post and even quoted part of it. My comment was directed at the lack of brain cells used in creating the title. There is a reason Para chastises "cute" thread titles that don't accurately describe a thread.



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October 27, 2025, 07:37 PM
wcb6092
quote:
I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective


You assumed. And now you are pissed you are being called out for it. You are now showing you are also a jerk.

If Para has a problem with my post he won't hesitate to let me know, so you are assuming again. Razz


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October 27, 2025, 07:42 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
quote:
I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective


You assumed. And now you are pissed you are being called out for it. You are now showing you are also a jerk.
You were called out for your inaccurate thread title. Instead of changing your title to reflect the content of the thread you're choosing to be bullheaded.



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October 27, 2025, 07:44 PM
wcb6092
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
quote:
I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective


You assumed. And now you are pissed you are being called out for it. You are now showing you are also a jerk.
You were called out for your inaccurate thread title. Instead of changing your title to reflect the content of the thread you're choosing to be bullheaded.



If Para has a problem with my post I will listen to him. Not an asshole like you.


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October 27, 2025, 08:58 PM
parabellum
tatortodd, there's no reason to react so harshly to something so trivial.
October 27, 2025, 09:02 PM
dsiets
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
quote:
I thought this was going to be about the AR15 being ineffective


You assumed. And now you are pissed you are being called out for it. You are now showing you are also a jerk.
You were called out for your inaccurate thread title. Instead of changing your title to reflect the content of the thread you're choosing to be bullheaded.

Tator, you got something going on?
You all bent outa shape over a thread title.
ETA: Ooops, I typed too slow.
October 27, 2025, 09:10 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
Benelli recoil action 12 ga semi w/Brenneke Magic Slugs. Those guys aren't designed to pancake.


I was thinking a Beretta 1301 Tactical Mod 2 with 7 rds of Brenneke slugs. Unlike 9mm, those slugs would put some nice big holes in that SUV, and the dude's face would be cratered.



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October 27, 2025, 09:31 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
tatortodd, there's no reason to react so harshly to something so trivial.
Understood

WCB, I apologize for overreacting and in hindsight recognize that did use an emoji in your first reply.



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October 27, 2025, 09:39 PM
Prefontaine
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd: Give your sex trophy a $150+k car they didn't earn and make them so entitled that they turn a routine traffic stop into attempted murder.


Entitlement is massive problem in our country. Mixed with some bullshit social media narratives it makes for a nasty recipe.

I hope all the officers come out of this intact and not with permanent injuries.



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October 27, 2025, 09:55 PM
SigSauerP226
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
tatortodd, there's no reason to react so harshly to something so trivial.
Understood

WCB, I apologize for overreacting and in hindsight recognize that did use an emoji in your first reply.


In all honesty I was in the same boat. No idea what bringing back the 12ga and slugs has to do with this at all, but I expected an ineffective AR15 incident. 12ga isn’t even out of common use anymore… All in all, too bad dude didn’t take many of any kind of rounds and cease to exist.

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October 27, 2025, 10:22 PM
MikeinNC
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
Benelli recoil action 12 ga semi w/Brenneke Magic Slugs. Those guys aren't designed to pancake.


That is a LOT of energy. 1500fps, 1.375oz = 3500ft lb




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