You can't make this stuff up. After all of our men killed and wounded....THIS?? WTF? We need to wipe them out..."with extreme prejudice".

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28...alks-intl/index.html

We've been at it for 16-years, through various 'strategies', its up to the Afghani's to figure out if they want them or not. At some point, we're gonna have to close the door on this.

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Everything you need to know about the Afghans, you can learn from Rudyard Kipling.

Absolutely nothing has changed since Victoria's day, except for the Toyota trucks and some of the weaponry. Nothing.

Democracy does not suit them. Hell, central governance of any sort does not suit them.

That place has been screwed up since the beginning of time.
We tried our best to fix it.
Someone else's job now.
Next time, deal with it from 30,000 ft.

The shittiest country in a truly shitty part of the world. Shitty government is what they've had and always shall have. That place will never be anything more than a giant litterbox.

Not too different from the US recognizing and glorifying the new Democratic Party.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
That place has been screwed up since the beginning of time.
We tried our best to fix it.
Someone else's job now.
Next time, deal with it from 30,000 ft.

Yep. Fuck 'em

It is long past time we shed ourselves of that place and said "Don't make us come back."

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Exactly. I don't care what they do, do it without us. We should have stopped after the first attack after 911. We messed them up good. We should have said "You see what we can do? Don't make us come back here".

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Originally posted by mbinky:
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Exactly. I don't care what they do, do it without us. We should have stopped after the first attack after 911. We messed them up good. We should have said "You see what we can do? Don't make us come back here".

One of our interpreters in Afghanistan, after 9/11, said to me, "oh shit, the Americans are coming..."

We took our foot off the gas pedal. Should've fought and left instead of trying to build something.

As long as no attacks on us are planned or launched from there, they can go back to hoofing it five miles to a shit-filled river for water, wiping their asses with their hands and fucking goats for all I care. Too bad about the water systems and other things we built for them, which will fall into disuse and be reclaimed by nature in a few years.

We were doing fine up to mid-2002, then Big Army and a bunch of policy nerds in the DoD got the ear of SecDef and POTUS, along with the UN creating ISAF, turning what should've been a small, sharp, SOF focused effort into a massive money pit where colonels got to check the box on their career pathway to promotion.

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We took our foot off the gas pedal. Should've fought and left instead of trying to build something.

Exactly. You said it perfectly.

We should have stuck to what works - cracking their skulls, then leave and say "We'll be back if you do that shit again".

What a fucking waste of lives, time, and money.

Fuck that place. Those child molesters are worthless garbage.

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Originally posted by corsair:
We were doing fine up to mid-2002, then Big Army and a bunch of policy nerds in the DoD got the ear of SecDef and POTUS, along with the UN creating ISAF, turning what should've been a small, sharp, SOF focused effort into a massive money pit where colonels got to check the box on their career pathway to promotion.

Exactly.

Yup, concur with all sentiments expressed above. On my way there for a year this June, again. Still no idea WTF our strategy is. Too bad the senior commanders are never held to account.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
We should have stuck to what works - cracking their skulls, then leave and say "We'll be back if you do that shit again".

What a fucking waste of lives, time, and money.

Fuck that place. Those child molesters are worthless garbage.

That is all they know. You cannot change the mindset of savages no matter how hard you try. There culture has been savages for generation after generation. I don't know why the US always thinks they can go into another country and change the mindset of the people and the government into democracy, it never works.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
We should have stuck to what works - cracking their skulls, then leave and say "We'll be back if you do that shit again".

What a fucking waste of lives, time, and money.

Fuck that place. Those child molesters are worthless garbage.

That is all they know. You cannot change the mindset of savages no matter how hard you try. There culture has been savages for generation after generation. I don't know why the US always thinks they can go into another country and change the mindset of the people and the government into democracy, it never works.

great point. Seems our policy makers have a religious zeal for democracy despite all evidence that culture is more important than type of government. Even crazier, they are still teaching the spread of democracy as strategically sound, despite zero evidence that it has ever worked. These people are stuck on stupid. And they are in charge unfortunately.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
Yup, concur with all sentiments expressed above. On my way there for a year this June, again. Still no idea WTF our strategy is. Too bad the senior commanders are never held to account.

Adviser? Or something else?