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American Pickers appears to violate FFL transfer law...

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October 17, 2018, 09:18 PM
ChuckFinley
American Pickers appears to violate FFL transfer law...
I was watching a rerun of American Pickers. They talk the whole episode about being in NY while they are from IA.

They bought a Springfield 1896 Kraig rifle from a private residence. Then looked to stick it in the back of the van to hit the road.

Didn't go through FFL?



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October 17, 2018, 09:20 PM
cslinger
Might have a C&R or even an FFL given their job.


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October 17, 2018, 09:22 PM
redleg2/9
If it was made in, or prior to, 1898 then nothing is needed as it is an antique.

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October 17, 2018, 09:23 PM
ChuckFinley
^ Good point.

Serial number placed it as in use during Spanish American War.



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October 17, 2018, 09:39 PM
zoom6zoom
quote:
Originally posted by redleg2/9:
If it was made in, or prior to, 1898 then nothing is needed as it is an antique.

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Correct. Dont know if NY has any state laws on the matter, though.



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October 18, 2018, 06:42 AM
cas
That would be a very blurry line, state wise.

In NY all transactions have to go through an FFL with a background check.

I"m SURE they had a serial number manufacture list and checked that it was made in 1897 and not 1899. Wink


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October 18, 2018, 07:21 AM
airsoft guy
The most likely answer is it's a TV show.

Remember, "reality TV" isn't.



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October 18, 2018, 09:40 AM
Fredward
Federal law requires 18 for a long gun, and a valid state ID. Out of state purchases are fine. KY complies with KY law. Additionally, private transactions are not regulated.
October 18, 2018, 09:43 AM
cas
NY also still has a contiguous state law on the books, even though its no longer Federal law. Don't know that it would apply to an outbound sale though.


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October 18, 2018, 09:49 AM
radioman
Just the fact that we need to discuss this shows how stupid these laws are.

My personal feelings are if nobody involved has a felony record, then it's none of the govmt's business. It's private property.


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October 18, 2018, 09:52 AM
airsoft guy
quote:
Originally posted by radioman:
Just the fact that we need to discuss this shows how stupid these laws are.

My personal feelings are if nobody involved has a felony record, then it's none of the govmt's business. It's private property.


That too.

So just to reiterate, everyone, reality TV isn't, and every gun law is an infringement.



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October 18, 2018, 09:54 AM
egregore
If logic were applied to it, New York should be happy that an evil gun is leaving the state.
October 18, 2018, 09:57 AM
molachi
There is also the possibilty that they went through an FFL but that part was not shown.
October 18, 2018, 10:45 AM
captain127
Even in New York if an antique pre 1/1/1899 no ffl transfer required.
October 18, 2018, 11:08 AM
46and2
Nothing important on that show is real. The negotiations, the interactions, all staged.
October 18, 2018, 11:11 AM
sourdough44
quote:
Originally posted by molachi:
There is also the possibilty that they went through an FFL but that part was not shown.


I’ll go with this. I’d kinda think they are aware of firearm laws.
October 18, 2018, 11:21 AM
PD
WOW! That’s some serious shit. Let’s rat them out Roll Eyes
October 18, 2018, 11:54 AM
cas
Do you think ANYONE involved knew what the law is? Big Grin


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October 18, 2018, 11:57 AM
Kevbo
Yeah, standing around filling out 4473s isn’t exactly scintillating TV. They buy plenty of cars and stuff too, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a title change hands (I admittedly don’t watch the show regularly)

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Originally posted by sourdough44:
quote:
Originally posted by molachi:
There is also the possibilty that they went through an FFL but that part was not shown.


I’ll go with this. I’d kinda think they are aware of firearm laws.



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October 18, 2018, 12:11 PM
46and2
(taps mic)

Is this thing on?

Nothing in that show isn't staged for the cameras. It couldn't be less real.