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If mine go, I drive, flying can put to much stress on them for my liking. Not to mention mistakes made by ground crews with them.


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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.

I suspect not even UAL could lose a whale. But they might surprise me.




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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.

I suspect not even UAL could lose a whale. But they might surprise me.


I suspect UAL would either have it filleted and frozen by the time it arrived, or have it dragged from the aircraft by its fluke and chucked in a freshwater river, while calling it a trouble maker and reselling its seat for twice the price. But that's only a best guess.
 
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United Airlines had 18 animal deaths in 2017. The combined total for all the other airlines was 6.
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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.

I suspect not even UAL could lose a whale. But they might surprise me.


Maybe not lose it, but they would darn sure killify that sucker after cramming it into an overhead bin.


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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.


I think they made a movie about that one..?

 
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Putting animals in the hold is a pretty good way to kill them.
Why do you say that?


It may not have proper pressurization and climate control. Everything I've read is that most Airlines have fully pressurized and climate controlled areas for pets, if they accept them. Most.

Temperature extremes in situations where climate control, if present, is not fully effective. Like long periods on the ground. Poor handling to and from the cargo hold. Lack of in flight care on long flights.

Animals are significantly tougher than humans, and the death rate for carefully handled pets in 'ideal' conditions in the hold is still, iirc, about 1 in 10,000. Which, compared to the death rate of humans up in the cabin, is astonishingly high.
 
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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.

I suspect not even UAL could lose a whale. But they might surprise me.

Maybe not lose it, but they would darn sure killify that sucker after cramming it into an overhead bin.

I can see the headline, "UAL Kills Rare Midget Whale in Overhead Bin"




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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.


I think they made a movie about that one..?


We were a little lower-tech (747 Classic). No transparent aluminum, either. That, and the lav barely worked.

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It may not have proper pressurization and climate control. Everything I've read is that most Airlines have fully pressurized and climate controlled areas for pets, if they accept them. Most.

Temperature extremes in situations where climate control, if present, is not fully effective. Like long periods on the ground. Poor handling to and from the cargo hold. Lack of in flight care on long flights.

Animals are significantly tougher than humans, and the death rate for carefully handled pets in 'ideal' conditions in the hold is still, iirc, about 1 in 10,000. Which, compared to the death rate of humans up in the cabin, is astonishingly high.


Why would lower cargo areas have improper pressurization? They use the same bleed air and the same pressurization as the rest of the aircraft. There are some aircraft in which the lower cargo can be depressurized as a means of fire control, but that's an emergency condition, and if the lower is being depressurized, the aircraft is being depressurized. Oxygen masks are not available for pets.

Lower cargo has as good or better temperature regulation than main deck, and often a wider temperature range of control, in many cases.

Aircraft don't have "holds." Those are on boats.
 
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At one operation, we transported a killer whale.

I think they made a movie about that one..?

We were a little lower-tech (747 Classic). No transparent aluminum, either. That, and the lav barely worked.

Probably not engineered to handle whale shit.




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Probably not engineered to handle whale shit.


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And now, this;

According to KCTV, Kara Swindle and her family, who are moving from Oregon to Kansas, took a United flight to Kansas City. Their dog, a 10-year-old German shepherd named Irgo, was supposed to be waiting in a United cargo facility when they arrived.

But that wasn't the case.

When the Swindles went to pick up Irgo, they were greeted by a Great Dane instead, KCTV reported Wednesday. They soon learned that the airline had mixed up the two dogs and mistakenly flew Irgo to Japan, the Great Dane's intended destination.

In a statement, United told KCTV: "An error occurred during connections in Denver for two pets sent to the wrong destinations. We have notified our customers that their pets have arrived safely and will arrange to return the pets to them as soon as possible. We apologize for this mistake and are following up with the vendor kennel where they were kept overnight to understand what happened."

Irgo will be returned to the Swindles "later this week," KCTV reported.


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Irgo is fortunate the flight wasn't headed to Korea.

Then again, at least there, someone would wok the dog.

United. Needs spice.
 
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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
At one operation, we transported a killer whale.


I think they made a movie about that one..?


We were a little lower-tech (747 Classic). No transparent aluminum, either. That, and the lav barely worked.

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Originally posted by GregY:

It may not have proper pressurization and climate control. Everything I've read is that most Airlines have fully pressurized and climate controlled areas for pets, if they accept them. Most.

Temperature extremes in situations where climate control, if present, is not fully effective. Like long periods on the ground. Poor handling to and from the cargo hold. Lack of in flight care on long flights.

Animals are significantly tougher than humans, and the death rate for carefully handled pets in 'ideal' conditions in the hold is still, iirc, about 1 in 10,000. Which, compared to the death rate of humans up in the cabin, is astonishingly high.


Why would lower cargo areas have improper pressurization? They use the same bleed air and the same pressurization as the rest of the aircraft. There are some aircraft in which the lower cargo can be depressurized as a means of fire control, but that's an emergency condition, and if the lower is being depressurized, the aircraft is being depressurized. Oxygen masks are not available for pets.

Lower cargo has as good or better temperature regulation than main deck, and often a wider temperature range of control, in many cases.

Aircraft don't have "holds." Those are on boats.


So explain the extremely different odds of dying.
 
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What "extremely different odds of dying?"

What are you talking about?

What odds?

Extremely different than what?
 
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