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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I’ll just say to the both of you, 43 years doing any job is amazing.

The thing is that working for anyone for 43 years used to be rather common, by the time I retired I had more seniority than anyone in the company and felt,(and by some was looked upon), as something of a dinosaur. Changes in pensions etc. have made working at one organization for that long quite uncommon. If I were starting out today I probably would not have done it that way.

Welcome aboard! That's one of the coolest things about Sigforum. The wealth of info comes from so many valued sources with tons of experience in all walks and fields of life.

Why does Barack Obama's SSN begin with "042"?

I have to go to SSA in Woodlawn frequently for my job. The rent-a-cops there are the worst, cannot stand going to that place. I hate everything about SSA including the fact that I probably won't even get back a small percentage of what I have put into it.

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Originally posted by Fenris:

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
When I dont want to field the usual PITA cop comments from people I have been introduced to, I tell them I was a garbage man.
Which I was, more or less.
Welcome aboard.

I find saying I was a janitor shuts these conversations down quickly.

If I'm at an occasion where there is strong likelihood that nobody will know me, I advise people that I have only recently been released from spending thirty years in jail for murder, have 'found' the Buddha and am about to take up being a mendicant monk but meanwhile looking for somewhere to stay for a little while to get sorted out in my head and can they help!?

Why does Barack Obama's SSN begin with "042"?

I don't know how you know the first 3 digits of Obama's SSN. When I had access to the SSN database (with the ID search feature so I could hunt for SSNs), if I tried to get his SSN (or the SSN of any other politician, cabinet officer, FBI director etc,) I would have been fired in a matter of days. To answer your question, up until a few years ago the first 3 digits were determined by the location when and where you applied for the SSN. Now it's completely random.

I have to go to SSA in Woodlawn frequently for my job. The rent-a-cops there are the worst, cannot stand going to that place. I hate everything about SSA including the fact that I probably won't even get back a small percentage of what I have put into it.

Rent A Cops vary in their abilities as you might guess. The last guy I had was a retired local police officer who was very good. A great guy who was great with the public and very skilled in de-escalation techniques. As far as the rest of your post, I absolutely would not try to change your mind about anything. I would only say that people who started collecting 25 years ago or longer got a great deal out of Social Security. Their return on investment would beat anything the average return on private sector investments could offer. That is no longer true. Return on the tax contribution is not as good as it once was for new retirees due to changes in benefit formulas (although it's not horrible.) I would also tell you that there is an apples to oranges issue here too. A private sector retirement plan usually does not offer survivors benefits for life to your spouse, minor children until 18, disability coverage etc. If I were to design a social security system myself, it would be different than the current one with more flexibility and options.

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If I'm at an occasion where there is strong likelihood that nobody will know me, I advise people that I have only recently been released from spending thirty years in jail for murder, have 'found' the Buddha and am about to take up being a mendicant monk but meanwhile looking for somewhere to stay for a little while to get sorted out in my head and can they help!?

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You might want to name another crime, people are likely to ask you about murder. The people who are the most trouble are younger and have a string of misdemeanors. Repeated arrests for assault are a red flag.

When asked where I worked, I replied that I managed a huge Apartment Complex. (State Prison)

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Originally posted by Fed161:
Why does Barack Obama's SSN begin with "042"?

I don't know how you know the first 3 digits of Obama's SSN....
To answer your question, up until a few years ago the first 3 digits were determined by the location when and where you applied for the SSN. Now it's completely random.

Apparently, "042" corresponds to Connecticut...

September 14, 2012
A Possible Explanation for Obama's Connecticut Social Security Number
By Jack Cashill

As I reported on Tuesday, Barack Obama has yet to provide an explanation for how he came to have a Social Security number that begins with the Connecticut prefix "042."

Filmmaker Joel Gilbert read the piece. He has been in Hawaii doing follow-up research on his insightful new documentary, Dreams from My Real Father, and he sent me the single best explanation I have yet to see.

What intrigued me about this story from the moment Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels first came across Obama's Connecticut SSN was the ineptness of the left-wing explanations.

"Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency," crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post, as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.

One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason, too.

For the second, Linkins cited the argument of Carole Gilbert (no relation to Joel Gilbert) in the Yahoo-related "Associated Content." Said Carole Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, "In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?"

Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record at all that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.

On the respectable right, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly finessed this claim. "[Obama's] father lived in Connecticut for several years," O'Reilly said inaccurately on air last April. He added that "babies sometimes get numbers based on addresses provided by their parents." Wrong again.

The left-leaning fact-checking service Snopes.com addresses the SSN issue, but evasively. It leads with a red herring about a man named Jean Paul Ludwig, whose SSN Obama is allegedly using. "False," says Snopes. But Daniels has never mentioned a Ludwig or anyone else.

Snopes then repeats the irrelevant detail that Obama would only need to have sent his application in from Connecticut, but how or why the 16-year-old Obama could or would have done so is overlooked.

Snopes concludes that "the most likely explanation" is a "simple clerical or typographical error." Obama, they contend, lived in the Hawaii zip code of 96814, while the zip code for Danbury, CT is 06814. As it happens, "clerical error" is the same excuse used to explain away Obama's claim to a Kenyan birth in his literary agent's 1991 promotional piece.

Joel Gilbert suggests a more likely explanation. In doing his research in Hawaii, Gilbert heard from several sources that pre-statehood, every institution or branch of government in Hawaii was dominated by the Japanese syndicate known as the "Yakuza, the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU), and a complicit bureaucracy. "After statehood in 1959 the Federal Government came in, and the syndicate went underground, but maintained the same control, and does so to this day," says Gilbert.

"Hawaii was and is a corrupt state," Gilbert continues. He was told by retired Honolulu police detectives that in the state bureaucracy, "anything could be purchased, including Social Security numbers." These were real numbers, likely available because the original card holder was dead. The sellers trafficked in SSNs that did not originate in Hawaii. That way, if the person using the phony SSN were ever caught, the crime would be traced back to the issuing state, not the Hawaii office.

Gilbert's theory is that the SSN problem is related to the question of Obama's birth certificate, which is required to get a SSN. Lacking a valid birth certificate, Obama was forced to buy an SSN so he could get his first job at the Baskin Robbins in 1977. In this theory, Obama was sold an SSN that was Connecticut-based so it couldn't be traced back to the Hawaii office.

The easiest way to test this theory and establish the truth is to ask the people who know. WND's veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving tried to do just this at a press briefing a few years back. Predictably, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate.

In a televised address two years ago, Obama famously said, "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide." So could someone in the media please ask him about that "042"? We can be sure they would be asking questions if Mitt Romney had a Hawaii-based SSN, and they would not be satisfying themselves with "clerical error."

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...r.html#ixzz5nkNRkgT4

Okay fed 161, I've always wanted to ask this question. seems a few years ago a friend was teaching English as a second language at the local community college and it seems a number of the folks in the class were either illegal or knew folks who were... according to them you could pay various amounts for a social security card depending on how good it was....back then 200-500 dollars. Now assuming this is true, how is that done and by whom?

Seems a few years ago a friend was teaching English as a second language at the local community college and it seems a number of the folks in the class were either illegal or knew folks who were... according to them you could pay various amounts for a social security card depending on how good it was....back then 200-500 dollars. Now assuming this is true, how is that done and by whom?

You pay somebody who prints up social security cards with fake numbers. The cards can look very genuine. An employer won't know the difference. If an employer does not use e-verify, an employer would never know that the SSN is invalid. Most employers don't use e-verify. There is no law that requires employers to use it.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
...Most employers don't use e-verify. There is no law that requires employers to use it.

Ummm...last time I looked 17 states had varying degrees of mandatory E-verify laws on the books.

E-verify
There is no Federal E-verify law. You are correct that some states have mandatory E-verify laws, but some of those 17 states only requires it for state contractors and other limited groups of employers. The Democrats have always opposed a Federal E-verify law because, well, they're Democrats. Why do anything that would help solve the illegal alien problem. https://www.numbersusa.com/con...y-e-verify-laws.html

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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If I'm at an occasion where there is strong likelihood that nobody will know me, I advise people that I have only recently been released from spending thirty years in jail for murder, have 'found' the Buddha and am about to take up being a mendicant monk but meanwhile looking for somewhere to stay for a little while to get sorted out in my head and can they help!?

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You might want to name another crime, people are likely to ask you about murder. The people who are the most trouble are younger and have a string of misdemeanors. Repeated arrests for assault are a red flag.

Ah, right. Here in yUK most folks wouldn't ask a murderer about his crime, but I see where you are coming from. My late pal, Bob the murderer, served almost twenty years for murder, but almost everybody agreed that the victim deserved every inch of the 140 foot fall off a balcony that Bob helped him to. There was a lot of sympathy - the fallee had deliberately driven at Bob's son on a road crossing, killing him instantly, and boasting about it afterwards. Bob found him celebrating with a few friends in a high-rise apartment, walked into the crowd and without saying a word, had hoisted him over the balcony ledge into the parking lot below.

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Originally posted by nasig:
where do they keep the lock box?

I keep it in my basement.

Timely thread for me as I signed up for Medicare just last year and turn 66 in a few months.
I was pleasantly surprised after visiting my local branch, and the websites for both Medicare and Social Security. The last time I paid any attention to either agency was decades ago when I had elderly relatives and paperwork was on paper.
When I went for my visit I was surprised at the level and apparent seriousness of the security folks. Not knowing any better I had assumed this would be a low risk kind of place with no cash present and a bunch of geezer types, some disabled, sitting around.

Fed - recommend you look into PA for a residence. Close to NJ, but a world of difference.

Welcome Fed.

After 9/11 my cousin as a Federal Air Marshal and he was also a Baptist Preacher. So his cover story while flying if someone asked was he was a Baptist Preacher. It worked great if they wanted to talk religion he would and some just didn't want to talk to him after that. They didn't know he had that concealed Sig.

I have to admit my reason for asking the question about the various prices on SS cards as to how 'good' they were was making an implication that the only way I can see that to occur is if someone at the social security office is actually supplying them. sorry if that insults the OP but it is just how I saw it.

then again the only time I had to deal with the SS Admin was when I needed a replacement card ... the person issuing me the new card noted the birthday in the computer was one month different from the one on my birth certificate .... he then made the statement that my parents must have gotten it wrong when applying... I did not say anything to the guy but thought who is more likely to make the mistake of my birthday.. my parents or the person entering it in the system?