Top 5 Presidents?

March 31, 2018, 02:25 PM

Rey HRH

Top 5 Presidents?

I'm not going to put Trump yet. Putting him in any top 5 list would be pretty similar to giving him a Nobel Peace Prize and I think conservatives are more level headed than that.

I'm rooting for him but I'm not going gaga like liberals do over their heroes and heroines.

"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.

March 31, 2018, 02:31 PM

John Steed

Waiting to see the bottom 5. Three are pretty obvious (last 3 dims).

March 31, 2018, 02:39 PM

cas

Whichever five are mentioned the least in the history books.

March 31, 2018, 02:40 PM

FenderBender

Van Buren
Jefferson
Jackson
Harding
Coolidge

March 31, 2018, 02:56 PM

ArLEOret

Top 5

Washington
Lincoln
T. Roosevelt
Truman
Trump

March 31, 2018, 03:11 PM

kkina

I'm not sure about the top 5, but I definitely put Barack Obama as 6th best:

Trump 1st

Reagan & Lincoln tied for 2nd,

23 presidents tied for 3rd,

17 other presidents tied for 4th,

Jimmy Carter came in 5th, and

Obama a solid 6th.

March 31, 2018, 03:16 PM

sprg03-A3

1). Washington
2). Lincoln
3). Coolidge
4). Reagan

Last one is tough off the top of my head. Like Trumans straightforwardness and integrity but can't put someone there who called for national health care. Love TR's life story and the way he tackled life but too damn progressive. Intellectually Jefferson should be there as should Madison, the Father of the Constitution, and I like Ike, although kind of lukewarm on the economy and reliance on mutual assured destruction to the detriment of a more practical kind of warfare.

Have to mull it over.....

March 31, 2018, 03:40 PM

Scuba Steve Sig

Until the boating accident, my gun collection wouldn't have been 1/10th of what it was if it wasn't for Obama. I wouldn't have been able to buy all those cheap LEO restricted mags in 2004 without GWB and Clinton. I wouldn't have been able to keep them without Trump, and Truman because I'm from Missouri.

March 31, 2018, 03:46 PM

GWbiker

quote:
Originally posted by Scuba Steve Sig:
Until the boating accident, my gun collection wouldn't have been 1/10th of what it was if it wasn't for Obama. I wouldn't have been able to buy all those cheap LEO restricted mags in 2004 without GWB and Clinton. I wouldn't have been able to keep them without Trump, and Truman because I'm from Missouri.

Truman also was a member of the NRA.

I took an interesting tour of the Truman museum in Independence.

March 31, 2018, 04:00 PM

Scuba Steve Sig

His presidency was far before my time, but I've been through his library/museum twice. He really got a lot of grief for firing MacArthur and integration amongst other things. I think he is looked upon with rosier glasses now. I can't imagine walking into being responsible for what he was in 1945.

March 31, 2018, 04:03 PM

old rugged cross

Kkina for the win. Thanks for that. A good laugh and I liked it. It and the the post on T. Brokaw smoking turds really made me laugh.

March 31, 2018, 04:05 PM

rat2306

Washington
Lincoln
Reagan
Monroe
I'm betting Trump may become my #5, but for now..Eisenhower.
Among the Dems, Truman is head of the pack.

March 31, 2018, 04:37 PM

JALLEN

quote:
Originally posted by Scuba Steve Sig:
His presidency was far before my time, but I've been through his library/museum twice. He really got a lot of grief for firing MacArthur and integration amongst other things. I think he is looked upon with rosier glasses now. I can't imagine walking into being responsible for what he was in 1945.

I’ve read a couple of biographies, lots of articles, seen the one man play with James Whitmore, spent 3 days at the Library in October 2016 and the Truman home.

I’ve come to admire him, like I admire Coolidge, despite not agreeing with much of his politics. It is hard to imagine now but there was a time when you could disagree enthusiastically with someone’s politics and still like him.

Integrating the military wasn’t popular, especially for a Missourian, but it was right. It is hard to imagine the situation he found himself in when he was summoned to the White House. Truman has grown in stature as the years have gone by.

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown

March 31, 2018, 07:06 PM

tigereye313

Washington
Jefferson
Reagan
Coolidge
John Adams

March 31, 2018, 07:16 PM

tatortodd

William Henry Harrison is underrated. If you measure them by who did the least damage his 31 Day presidency is pretty hard to beat. Also, first president to have his photograph taken and he created the need for the 25th Amendment.

Reagan is the favorite in my lifetime.

Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln are my historical favorites.

March 31, 2018, 08:19 PM

craigcpa

quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by Scuba Steve Sig:
His presidency was far before my time, but I've been through his library/museum twice. He really got a lot of grief for firing MacArthur and integration amongst other things. I think he is looked upon with rosier glasses now. I can't imagine walking into being responsible for what he was in 1945.

I’ve read a couple of biographies, lots of articles, seen the one man play with James Whitmore, spent 3 days at the Library in October 2016 and the Truman home.

I’ve come to admire him, like I admire Coolidge, despite not agreeing with much of his politics. It is hard to imagine now but there was a time when you could disagree enthusiastically with someone’s politics and still like him.

Integrating the military wasn’t popular, especially for a Missourian, but it was right. It is hard to imagine the situation he found himself in when he was summoned to the White House. Truman has grown in stature as the years have gone by.

Truman is also the only man to order a nuclear annihilation of a foe. Plus, tempering the English and Russians at the Potsdam Accord was no small feat. He knew the eventuality of the "Red Menace" and prepared the world for it, and cemented the United States as THE world power.

Lastly, he was Trump's predecessor on pulling out a victory from the Main Stream Media's attempt at telling the citizenry what they need.

March 31, 2018, 09:22 PM

Deqlyn

quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
I'm an Andrew Jackson fan myself. In my mind he embodied the tough as nails American spirit. Fought in the War For Independence as a kid, served in the Army, served in congress, and was a champion of the individual vice the state. He was a fighter and I like that.

I think of General Mattis as his contemporary equivalent (although some say he is closer to Grant, and I have heard Eisenhower, but no way. Ike wasn't nearly as ferocious. Ike was a statesman in and out of uniform, more of a political general).

Also paid off the national debt.

March 31, 2018, 09:25 PM

Scoutmaster

quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
I'm not sure about the top 5, but I definitely put Barack Obama as 6th best:

Trump 1st

Reagan & Lincoln tied for 2nd,

23 presidents tied for 3rd,

17 other presidents tied for 4th,

Jimmy Carter came in 5th, and

Obama a solid 6th.

I agree with your ranking.

April 01, 2018, 09:03 AM

JALLEN

quote:
Originally posted by Deqlyn:
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
I'm an Andrew Jackson fan myself. In my mind he embodied the tough as nails American spirit. Fought in the War For Independence as a kid, served in the Army, served in congress, and was a champion of the individual vice the state. He was a fighter and I like that.

I think of General Mattis as his contemporary equivalent (although some say he is closer to Grant, and I have heard Eisenhower, but no way. Ike wasn't nearly as ferocious. Ike was a statesman in and out of uniform, more of a political general).

Also paid off the national debt.

Jackson was also a mentor, supporter, promoter, ally of Sam Houston. Some say, with no particular evidence I am aware of other thsn coincidence, that it was Jackson who sent Houston on a mission to Texas, to repurpose it as a state eventually.

It was Houston who admonished his successors to “Govern wisely, and as little as possible.”