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| No double standards |
They want their ticket on the public gravy train, which, in reality, enslaves them to those who write the checks, which is the goal of liberal politicians. Under the guise of serving the people, they will subjugate the people. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
Funny that they didn't seem to have a better handle on the details of Socialism. Usually people talking with an upspeak inflection and using "like" a couple of times per sentence are pretty knowledgeable and on top of their game...even though they sound stupid. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
I believe the plural of 'ignoramus' is 'origami'. | |||
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| FBHO |
Thank goodness I'm 56 and won't see much of the inescapable, looming clusterfuck. | |||
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LOL! Their minds are bent  | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
In theory, "sharing" everything sounds wonderful... In practice, it removes all incentives to excel and ultimately ruins a society. "More welfare and public benefits" sounds great... if you can always find some other sucker to pay for them. “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” ― Margaret Thatcher "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
"populace". "Populous" is an adjective meaning having a large population; "populace" is a noun denoting the people of that population. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado |
In a sense, he may be right. The USS Ward fired on and sank a Japanese midget submarine outside of Pearl Harbor before the attack there. Technically, we were not yet at war with Japan when that happened, but the island forces had been put on high alert. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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He knew nothing of Pearl Harbor, never heard of it, he wasn’t technically right, he was ignorant of all of it. "Hold my beer.....Watch this". | |||
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To all of you who are serving or have served our country, Thank You |
Why am i not surprised? | |||
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| Freethinker |
Interesting question that I’d never seen raised before. I don’t recall the specifics of the Ward action, but I always assumed it occurred inside the harbor, or at least well within US territorial waters. If so, then a warship of a foreign power that we had tense relations with and were specifically on alert against entered our territory in a stealthy manner clearly intended to avoid detection, I would argue that firing on such a craft was hardly unprovoked. What would be the appropriate response by US forces have been if a platoon of fully-armed Japanese marines had landed on Wake Island and attempted to approach an outpost under cover of darkness? “Oh, hey, guys; what’s going on? Did you come for the BBQ this afternoon?” In fact, I would argue that the war didn’t start when the first Japanese warplane crossed into US airspace, but when the submarine invaded our territorial waters on an obvious combat mission. (Added: According to Wiki, the submarine was sunk outside Pearl Harbor, but in American waters.) How about on a personal level? I have an argument with my neighbor about his incessantly barking dog. He makes a vague threat of the “You’d better be careful” sort, goes into his house, comes out with a shotgun, walks into my yard, and then points the gun at me. Do I have a right to defend myself at that point, or do I need to wait until he fires the first shot? And as one last comment about the French forces that opposed the invasion of their territory in North Africa, they were not in direct support of German forces. If a non-German joined the Waffen SS (as many men from various countries did), then I wouldn’t say that that person was a member of his native country’s armed forces. He would have been a soldier in the German army. Vichy France, however, was an independent country at the time of the North African invasion, and the commanders who refused to surrender when the US and UK forces invaded their territory were fighting on behalf of their country: France. And France didn’t stop being France because part of the country was occupied any more than Germany stopped being Germany when it was occupied by the Four Powers or because it lost territory to Poland after WWII. For a very good book about the North African operation, to include all the political maneuvering, I recommend the first in the “Liberation Trilogy” by Rick Atkinson, An Army at Dawn.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sigfreund, ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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delicately calloused |
If you wiggle their tail, their ears flap. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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How can you support something you neither understand nor can explain? SigP229R Harry Callahan "A man has got to know his limitations". Teddy Roosevelt "Talk soft carry a big stick" I Cor10: 13 "1611KJV" | |||
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| No ethanol! |
The quote which comes to mind is "there's no sense in being stupid if you can't prove it". ------------------ The plural of anecdote is not data. -Frank Kotsonis | |||
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| No double standards |
Simple, you listen to your school teachers and college profs, and merely parrot what they tell you.  "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| No double standards |
Excellent, and relevant point. I might also note that the Japanese planes were already in flight to attack Pearl Harbor before the USS Ward sank the sub. Pearl Harbor would have been attacked regardless of the Ward. The fact that the sub was hit before Pearl was hit is irrelevant. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Why can't all those that want Socialism live in Socialist countries? | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
Of course they don't know what it means economically, they have been raised by idiots, educated by idiots and chose to remain idiots. That makes them iCubed Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Because the Socialists have already ruined all of them... "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| I'll use the Red Key |
  Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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