The assassin is dead..... suicide
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day
I have had it with all this conspiracy shit. This thread is one post away from a lock. Any more of this unfounded conspiracy horse shit and this thread gets locked for good, and since some of you can't be bothered to read even two posts back in a thread, I fully expect to lock this within a day or two. If you want this thread to remain open, stop with the dramatic-sounding conspiracy nonsense.
That judge adjudicated all sorts of cases. Just cut the speculation.
This is teenage bullshit. Grow up, guys. Grow up.
I'll be watching this thread very closely. I could save time by locking it right now.
You know, we used to outsource this kind of thing. But what we found was the countries we outsourced to had unreliable power grids. Very Third World. You'd turn on a switch - power wouldn't come on, and then tempers would get short. People would resort to pulling fingernails. Acid drips on bare skin. The whole exercise would become counterproductive. But here, the power's stable. Here, there's a nice even flow. Here, you can flip a switch and the power stays on all day. ----Bryan Mills, in 'Taken'
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It had nothing to do with Ghislane Maxwell or Epstein:
The suspect was later found dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound near Liberty, New York, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News. A municipal employee discovered the body in a car.
The deceased suspect was an attorney who had a case before Judge Salas in 2015, sources said. A FedEx package addressed to Judge Salas was discovered in the car, sources said.
Statement from U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr:
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
Imagine that. The boring, undramatic truth. But that won't stop the conspiracy theories. No sir, not a chance. If there's any way- any way at all- to try to make something grand and dramatic out of stuff like this, there are people who will bend over backwards to try to make it fit like we're living in some kind of damn spy novel.
The truth is most often banal, but, no one wants to accept that. If there's some theory which is so very interesting and intriguing, chances are that it's wrong- just like the exciting theories about Epstein being murdered. Yeah, he had everything to live for, didn't he, with his lavish lifestyle suddenly reduced to the reality of facing the rest of his life in prison. I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to stick around for that.
If he committed suicide, well, there's not much left to talk about, is there? How boring. But, oh, if he was murdered, why, one could spend countless hours imagining the spy masters behind that, huh?
The first words From Gov Phil Murphy aka Bucky Beaver was about senseless gun violence.
Seems the judge was assigned a case involving Epstien and Deutsche Bank. Apparently nothing to do with this.
However, this shooter was an "Anti-Feminist/Pro Men's attorney, defending Men from getting taken to the cleaners, in divorce cases.
There was a report the Husband succumbed to his injuries, not verified.This message has been edited. Last edited by: downtownv,
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Enough of this shit. How in the fuck do you guys expect people all over the country to know your insulting nicknames for the governor of some state we don't live in? Just who is that supposed to be? Furthermore, if that's a jab at his physical appearance, you are violating a very longstanding policy of this forum. Cut it out.
Use the real names of these politicians, or don't mention them at all.
Who’s afraid of Ghislaine Maxwell? Everyone on this list
It’s the Top Ten list no one wants to be on.
Moments after the feds busted Ghislaine Maxwell for allegedly roping in underage girls for pal Jeffrey Epstein’s perverted pleasure, fireworks started going off in the lives of certain billionaires and playboys who palled around with the two.
And not the happy Fourth of July kind.
Since no one was closer to the multimillionaire pedophile than Maxwell, whose network stretched from New York to France, Israel, Buckingham Palace and the Caribbean, those in the know are undoubtedly fretting over the dirt she could dish to keep herself out of jail.
Particularly after prosecutors vowed to “bring justice” to other potential enablers of Epstein’s sex abuse and trafficking.
A friend, TV host Christopher Mason, said he believes she had access to videotapes from all of Epstein’s properties — and the footage has gone missing.
“I’m sure she has access to the videos,” Mason said. “A lot of powerful people will be more than a little worried.”
So who among Epstein’s infamous black book will need a good lawyer if “G-Max” — the alias Maxwell used when moving around money — starts singing?
Ghislaine with Prince Andrew
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Andrew, Queen Elizabeth II’s third child, was introduced to Epstein by Maxwell in the early 1990s, and the men remained friends for years; they were even photographed together after Epstein got out of jail in 2009, having served 13 months in prison after pleading guilty to “solicitation of prostitution involving a minor.”
In 2015, Andrew was named in a civil suit against Epstein, filed by a woman named Virginia Giuffre who alleged she’d been forced to have sex with the royal when she was just 15. Andrew has always strenuously denied the allegations, but a disastrous BBC interview last year—in which he showed no empathy for Epstein’s victims, and gave some bizarre justifications for why the allegations against him were false—resulted in him resigning from royal duty, seemingly permanently.
Ghislaine with Naomi Campbell, Flavio Briatore, and Virginia Roberts Giuffre at Naomi Campbell’s 31st birthday party #ghislainemaxwell #naomicampbell #virginiarobertsgiuffre #virginiaroberts #jeffreyepstein #epstein #ghislaine #flaviobriatore
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In January, Virginia Giuffre tweeted out a series of photographs taken at Naomi Campbell’s 31st birthday in 2001. Taken on a yacht in Saint-Tropez, they show Campbell in a crowd alongside Epstein, Maxwell and a then-underage Giuffre.
She captioned the tweet: “You saw me at your parties, you saw me in Epstein’s homes, you saw me on the plane, you saw me get my haircut, you saw me on the streets, you watched me be abused.
You saw me!” She then hashtagged Prince Andrew, Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and Naomi Campbell, making it unclear who precisely was the “you.” Campbell’s reps have denied she was close with Epstein, and that her connection was only through her then-boyfriend, Italian businessman Flavio Briatore.
Ghislaine with Kevin Spacey, in the Throne Room at Buckingham Palace Swipe to see Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton, and Chris Tucker on a trip to Africa via Epstein’s jet, flight log included #jeffreyepstein #epstein #ghislainemaxwell #ghislaine #kevinspacey #buckinghampalace #billclinton #clinton #christucker
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In pictures obtained by Britain’s Telegraph newspaper, Kevin Spacey—since accused of unwanted advances toward a teenage boy, although the charges were dropped—is sitting on a throne at Buckingham Palace, playing the Duke of Edinburgh to Maxwell’s Queen Elizabeth.
According to the paper, the pair were there on a private tour arranged by—you guessed it—Prince Andrew, who had organised the tour for Spacey and Bill Clinton, then in town en route to a conference. Before arriving in London, however, Clinton, along with Spacey, Maxwell and the comedian Chris Tucker, had flown on Epstein’s jet to Africa, where they toured AIDS projects. According to The Telegraph, Maxwell was invited on this tour as Andrew’s guest.
Ghislaine with Bill Clinton and Chelsea Clinton
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The former U.S. President has known Epstein since the early ’90s, and Maxwell was a guest at Chelsea Clinton’s 2010 wedding.
Clinton has also acknowledged, in a statement released last year, that he flew on Epstein’s jet a number of times in 2002 and 2003, although he stresses this was on Clinton Foundation business, and his staff and Secret Service detail were with him. (Epstein’s jet has been called “the Lolita express” for its alleged role in ferrying people to a Caribbean island for sex with underage girls.)
According to his spokesman, Clinton knew “nothing about the terrible crimes” and had not spoken to him in “well over a decade.”
The usual scandal magnets at the top of the list – Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz – all hung around with Epstein, but each has a history of slithering out of jams.
Other Epstein associates with less experience in the hot seat might start to squirm.
Billionaire hedge fund owner Glenn Dubin, for example, who is one half of an accomplished Manhattan super-couple: His striking wife, Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, founded the Dubin Breast Center of the Tisch Cancer Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center.
They have three children and live a life of glossy luxury, all private chefs and private jets, with homes in Palm Beach, Westchester County, Sweden and a ranch in Gunnison, Colorado.
But Dubin’s friendship with Epstein and Maxwell ran deep.
His wife dated Epstein for a few years before she married Dubin in 1994, and Andersson-Dubin stuck up for the perv predator after his 2008 conviction on prostitution charges, saying she was “100% comfortable with Jeffrey Epstein around my children,” who were minors at the time.
The Dubins flatly deny assertions by sex-abuse victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who in a 2016 deposition claimed Maxwell sent her to have sex with Dubin after her “training.”
There’s also the beautiful, high-flying countess whom investigators reportedly want to question in the wake of Maxwell’s arrest.
Clare Hazell, now known as the Countess of Iveagh, was once just a regular, under-the-radar Ohio State University student (albeit with tuition reportedly paid by Epstein). Then she married Edward Guinness of the famed brewing family in 2001.
Hazell, 44, could be of interest to prosecutors because she worked for Epstein in the 1990s and flew on his Lolita Express jet at least 32 times between 1998 and 2000. She could have witnessed Maxwell’s dealings with other wealthy pals.
Larry Summers, Sheryl Sandberg’s one-time mentor and the former Harvard president, helped bolster Epstein’s reputation, taking $30 million from the multimillionaire to create Harvard’s Epstein Program for Mathematical Biology and Evolutionary Dynamics, according to Slate.
Epstein reportedly only agreed to have his name attached after being persuaded by Summers himself.
Summers appeared in Lolita Express flight logs, and Epstein’s private charity funded a nonprofit that produces a TV show hosted by Summers’ wife, the Daily Beast reported last year.
Married politician Ehud Barak, 77, the former prime minister of Israel, has watched current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu beat back seemingly every accusation and political challenge, while Barak’s ties to Epstein dog him constantly.
Barak found himself targeted by Netanyahu, who has tweeted articles and photographs of Barak exiting Epstein’s townhouse in 2016.
He once said he met Epstein “more than 10 times and much less than a hundred times, but I can’t tell you exactly how many. I don’t keep count. Over the years, I’ve seen him on occasion.”
Audrey Strauss speaks during a news conference to announce charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for her alleged role in the sexual exploitation and abuse of multiple minor girls.
Acting NYC US Attorney Audrey Strauss speaks at a news conference to announce charges against Ghislaine Maxwell.JASON SZENES/EPA-EFE/Shutterstoc
Barak admitted that he visited Epstein at two of his New York homes and flew to Epstein’s notorious Pedophile Island hideaway once, though he denied participating in any sex parties or orgies at the swanky retreat.
Leslie Wexner, the billionaire owner of Victoria’s Secret, has never been charged with anything. But one has to wonder why the titan would reportedly hire Epstein, who was then little more than a glorified former high school math teacher with just a few years on Wall Street, as his financial adviser in 1987, and then give him power of attorney over his fortune.
“It’s a weird relationship,” a Wall Streeter who reportedly knew Epstein told New York Magazine at the time. “It’s just not typical for someone of such enormous wealth to all of a sudden give his money to some guy most people have never heard of.”
To his credit, Wexner pulled the plug on their connection in 2007, saying, “I would not have continued to work with any individual capable of such egregious, sickening behavior as has been reported about him.”
A representative for Wexner called The Post after a reporter left messages regarding his client’s ties to Epstein, but declined to comment further.
He was smoother than some reps for boldface names who sounded uncharacteristically desperate when reached by The Post, alternately threatening legal action and begging not to be mentioned in print.
Former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, 72, and former US Sen. George Mitchell, 86, probably never envisioned being part of a sex scandal so late in their lives and careers.
In Mitchell’s case, the irony was supreme. He was known for overseeing the Philadelphia Archdiocese compensation fund for victims of clergy sex abuse in 2018.
Richardson would rather be remembered for pushing through the world’s first purpose-built spaceport when he was governor.
Now the two are doing all they can to distance themselves from Epstein, especially after the arrest Thursday of Maxwell in the tiny town of Bradford, NH, where she was living in a luxurious, multimillion-dollar hideaway in the woods.
Both have denied claims by Giuffre that she was “instructed” by Epstein and Maxwell to have sex with them, including one incident in which she said she gave Mitchell a sexual massage at Epstein’s mansion in Palm Beach, where her “body was put on the banquet menu.”
“I have never met, spoken with or had any contact with Ms. Giuffre,” Mitchell told Fox News last summer.
“In my contacts with Mr. Epstein I never observed or suspected any inappropriate conduct with underage girls. I only learned of his actions when they were reported in the media related to his prosecution in Florida. We have had no further contact.”
Richardson, too, was swift to issue a forceful rebuttal last summer, saying he had only “limited” interactions with Epstein and never in the presence of young or underage girls. He also denied ever having been on Pedophile Island or meeting Giuffre.
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Some people have all these elaborate theories about the Clintons and Epstein but they have amnesia about all the pictures of Trump and Epstein. At yesterday's press conference Trump was asked about Ghislane Maxwell and he said "I just wish her well, frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach." Is he being so nice because he is possibly worried about what she might say about him?
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Oh yeah. That's totally it. Also, Trump brought down tower 7 and caused Petticoat Junction to be cancelled prematurely.
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Don't let me ever again see this kind of SHIT from you. If you can't control yourself, leave this forum. You're talking out of your ass and you know it.
I mean it. Never again should you pull this shit here. If you do, I'm going to remove your posting rights.
Your politics are obvious:
Next time is the last time. Just give me a reason. I do believe you are in the wrong forum.
Good grief, anybody that's been to Palm Beach, knows the vast majority of those property owners are also principally connected to the Manhattan money scene. If you were of means, living in NYC during the 80's and 90's there was a number of common people everyone had done business with or, interacted with: Donald Trump, Bernie Madoff, Ivan Boesky, Carl Icahn and Epstein. EVERYONE attended the opening of the Met, the latest art gallery opening in SOHO, kept up on whatever Guggenheim or, Diane von Furstenberg was doing, sat on each other's boards and pet projects, argued who was going to have Billy Joel perform at their summer house party. If you had money and lived/traveled between NYC and Miami-area, you all knew each other and rubbed elbows with each other. The difference is, there's a mountain of evidence against Clinton, with a lot more to go.
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I'll be more blunt... you're an asshole Fundman and everyone appreciates it when a-holes don't speak.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Dakor,
OK, can we please stop quoting this guy? Ya think maybe his post his on this page enough for members to know whom you're addressing?
The connection between Palm Beach and New York began when Henry Flagler extended his railroad from Jacksonville to Miami and built the Breakers Hotel in West Palm around 1900.
Lick the lollipop of mediocrity once and you suck forever.
Wait a second that Orange idiot caused Petticoat Junction to be cancelled prematurely? That is beyond the pale. For some reason there seems to be no current pictures of Maxwell, why is that have I just missed them? I am pretty sure that the guy that was supposed to be Epstein on the gurney they brought out if the jail was not him, ears didn’t match nor his nose. Just saying.
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You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
It sucks that this bitches trial date isn’t until a year from now; I for one would LOVE to see what dirt she retained on all of the trash that frequented Pedo Island. Epstein kept video for blackmail purposes, so it stands to reason she would have taken measures to try and gain leverage if she was ever charged with anything.
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