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I am pretty sure that 85% of the people on tv do not know what the word "least" means

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May 05, 2020, 12:55 PM
bendable
I am pretty sure that 85% of the people on tv do not know what the word "least" means
or when to use the word "least".

A dozen times this week , I've heard tv /movie people say "it's the least we can do" or It's the least I could do".

After the 5th time that they chose this phrase , it started bugging me.

A. raising $750,000 for a charity ,is now where near the least you could do.

B. why would you go on tv and tell people that your absolute least is what you hope to achieve.

C. if you have $111,000,000. in the bank , why would you brag about donating your time? and say it's the least I could do ,
How is that inspiring people ?

Do they want people at home to think about what is the least they could do ?

it's just annoying and stupid, stop saying that when it does not apply





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May 05, 2020, 01:16 PM
architect
Once, just once, I want to hear the interviewer follow up, "Oh, so you could do more then, if you really wanted to?
May 05, 2020, 01:19 PM
GaryBF
Wait a minute. The person didn't say it was the most they could do. The least is zip, zero, nada.
May 05, 2020, 01:36 PM
Aeteocles
I think the usage is correct.

They are saying that, because of the circumstances, the minimum threshold of what they would consider an acceptable response has been raised.

For instance, if a stranger asked me for $5, my minimum acceptable response is to tell that person to fuck off.

If, however, that stranger chased after me to return my wallet I had dropped, my minimum acceptable response is now RAISED so that the "fuck off" is now a "thank you." That is now the LEAST I can do by my own standards.

So, if someone donated $75k and said it's the least they can do--they aren't saying that they aren't technically capable of doing less, they are saying that the $75k is now the minimum of what they find acceptable for their situation.

The purpose is deflect praise for one's generosity. By saying that such and such an act of kindness is the least one could do, that person is saying that it was no trouble, that he/she wouldn't feel right about doing less given the circumstances.
May 05, 2020, 01:55 PM
bendable
I don't understand that at all.





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May 05, 2020, 02:20 PM
dsiets
Aeteocles's explanation is the least he could do. Another post may explain more. If not, it's also the most he could do.
May 05, 2020, 02:33 PM
Scurvy
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
I think the usage is correct.

They are saying that, because of the circumstances, the minimum threshold of what they would consider an acceptable response has been raised.

For instance, if a stranger asked me for $5, my minimum acceptable response is to tell that person to fuck off.

If, however, that stranger chased after me to return my wallet I had dropped, my minimum acceptable response is now RAISED so that the "fuck off" is now a "thank you." That is now the LEAST I can do by my own standards.

So, if someone donated $75k and said it's the least they can do--they aren't saying that they aren't technically capable of doing less, they are saying that the $75k is now the minimum of what they find acceptable for their situation.

The purpose is deflect praise for one's generosity. By saying that such and such an act of kindness is the least one could do, that person is saying that it was no trouble, that he/she wouldn't feel right about doing less given the circumstances.


Correct, it's a common and generally accepted idiom.

https://dictionary.cambridge.o...s-the-least-i-can-do

Its not a ' for all intents and purposes' or ' I was so mad then I literally ate their face off' misspeak.
May 05, 2020, 02:35 PM
Fredward
Nor "unprecedented." Or "literally."
May 05, 2020, 02:53 PM
jhe888
Aetocles' explanation of this phrase is right, and what everyone means by it.

It is not, and never has been, intended to be taken literally. It means, just as he explained; "Under the circumstances, it was the least I could do and still be within the bounds of good behavior."

It is a figure of speech.




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May 05, 2020, 04:25 PM
bendable
42 years , That's how long it's taken me to find out that they don't mean what people are saying. Geez, I need to start another thread , asking about other " sayings" that are misnomer's . Chaulk this up to the second thing that I've learned in 2020.





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May 05, 2020, 04:34 PM
darthfuster
I couldn't afford a new car so I least one. Big Grin



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May 05, 2020, 04:35 PM
Keystoner
I could care less. After I close this thread, I will.



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May 05, 2020, 04:38 PM
Belwolf
Least of all...



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May 05, 2020, 05:56 PM
murphman
At least it's arguably correct as a figure of speech, rather than intended as a literal statement.

What really infuriates me is when everyone uses "decimate" as if it meant to completely wipe out something - as opposed to destroying 10% of it.

Literally drives me nuts. Wink


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May 06, 2020, 10:39 AM
apprentice
quote:
Originally posted by murphman:
At least it's arguably correct as a figure of speech, rather than intended as a literal statement.

What really infuriates me is when everyone uses "decimate" as if it meant to completely wipe out something - as opposed to destroying 10% of it.

Literally drives me nuts. Wink


You too? That's bugged me for ages. I think they get it confused with exterminate somehow.

Well I got news, Daleks don't settle for 10% enemy reduction...never have, never will. Big Grin
May 06, 2020, 11:17 AM
HRK
at lease you got it of your chess
May 06, 2020, 11:28 AM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by murphman:
At least it's arguably correct as a figure of speech, rather than intended as a literal statement.

What really infuriates me is when everyone uses "decimate" as if it meant to completely wipe out something - as opposed to destroying 10% of it.

Literally drives me nuts. Wink
That is one of my pet peeves, too! I cringe every time I hear it.

quote:
Originally posted by Keystoner:
I could care less. After I close this thread, I will.
And there is another.

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May 06, 2020, 11:30 AM
sjtill
I’ve learned a lot at SigForum, including that “decimate” means “reduce by 10%.
Or maybe it means a girl friend who is 10% shorter. I don’t know.


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May 06, 2020, 11:56 AM
Rustyblade
quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
I think the usage is correct.

They are saying that, because of the circumstances, the minimum threshold of what they would consider an acceptable response has been raised.
.
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The purpose is deflect praise for one's generosity. By saying that such and such an act of kindness is the least one could do, that person is saying that it was no trouble, that he/she wouldn't feel right about doing less given the circumstances.


I am with Aeteocles -- However, I see gray in pret-near everything (even a coin has 3 sides) and can argue both versions depending on context. As an aside, I have yet to take to the expression No Problem.
I realize it is the Now Generations version of Sure or Okay.... but it sounds wrong to my vintage ears.


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May 06, 2020, 12:17 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by Rustyblade:
I have yet to take to the expression No Problem.
I realize it is the Now Generations version of Sure or Okay.... but it sounds wrong to my vintage ears.
I have always assumed it was the English version of the Spanish "por nada" ("for nothing"), which is how they respond to a thank you. Myself, I prefer the more traditional "you're welcome" or CFA's "my pleasure".

"No problem" (or "pro nada") dismisses the act as if not important, and I think that is wrong. "You're welcome" (or "my pleasure") signifies that there was meaning and intent and should not be dismissed.

flashguy




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