In talking with several other reloaders, we have tried to figure out what would cause such a massive explosion with no fire .
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October 11, 2021, 08:56 AM
p08
He was working with something, but it sure as hell wasn't smokeless powder! Unless he had Win 296 or another fast burning powder in a closed container. I'm gonna guess maybe he was loading black powder rounds or messing with other volatile chemicals. I'm sure the arson people will figure it out with residue traces all over the place.
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October 11, 2021, 09:08 AM
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October 11, 2021, 09:23 AM
MikeinNC
Newspapers get all kinds of things wrong. I doubt that explosion was from reloading smokeless powder from a factory container.
Smokeless powder burns when not constrained. Where a few pounds of BP could have done that amount of damage.This message has been edited. Last edited by: MikeinNC,
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October 11, 2021, 09:32 AM
bigwagon
Yeah, if I had to guess, it would involve a large quantity of blackpowder, not smokeless
October 11, 2021, 09:36 AM
jhe888
It is hard to imagine that was caused by smokeless powder.
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October 11, 2021, 09:43 AM
1s1k
It looks like a natural gas explosion to me. He might have had a gas leak and didn’t smell it because of all the chemicals he had out.
October 11, 2021, 10:01 AM
cgode
I’m in the gas leak/explosion boat too.....no way did smokeless powders cause that damage. I’ve been to several gas explosions in my career and that type of damage is consistent with what I’ve seen.
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October 11, 2021, 11:01 AM
Skins2881
Seems unrealistic. Unless he dropped the powder into a fan and had dust floating everywhere then caused a spark.
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October 11, 2021, 11:08 AM
CPD SIG
Did anyone see the location?
-Florida-
Crazy people doing crazy shit in that state.
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October 11, 2021, 11:10 AM
Lefty Sig
Possible meth cooking related explosion and he is lying about the reloading?
October 11, 2021, 11:24 AM
darthfuster
Try not to contain expanding gases
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October 11, 2021, 11:37 AM
radioman
could improperly stored primers play a role? I guess it would take a lot of primers in a tight container to do this....
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October 11, 2021, 11:49 AM
Flash-LB
quote:
Originally posted by radioman: could improperly stored primers play a role? I guess it would take a lot of primers in a tight container to do this....
They won't go off by themselves. It takes a hard blow or a flame or something along those lines to get them to go off.
October 11, 2021, 11:51 AM
mrvmax
If that was from 6 pounds of smokeless powder then the government is wasting too much money on munitions. Even with high explosives (primers), I doubt you'll get that affect with the quantities people normally have. Plus, components are usually not contained. That is not from reloading supplies, something else was involved.
October 11, 2021, 12:35 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by mrvmax: If that was from 6 pounds of smokeless powder then the government is wasting too much money on munitions. Even with high explosives (primers), I doubt you'll get that affect with the quantities people normally have. Plus, components are usually not contained. That is not from reloading supplies, something else was involved.
Only way 6 lbs of powder would do that is if the pressure were contained. Even then, that’s a lot more damage than I’d expect.
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October 11, 2021, 01:02 PM
rsbolo
quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG: Did anyone see the location?
-Florida-
Crazy people doing crazy shit in that state.
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October 11, 2021, 01:42 PM
vinnybass
I'm surprised the narrative isn't "Right-wing gun nut blows hisself up making a bomb."
How did the feds & press let that one go by?
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October 11, 2021, 01:51 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by p08: He was working with something, but it sure as hell wasn't smokeless powder! Unless he had Win 296 or another fast burning powder in a closed container. I'm gonna guess maybe he was loading black powder rounds or messing with other volatile chemicals. I'm sure the arson people will figure it out with residue traces all over the place.
I don't think of W296 (H110) as a fast-burning powder--it's about the slowest burning powder for handguns. I guess if you are accustomed to rifle ammo it would be pretty fast (H110 was created for the .30 Carbine round).
I don't think it is possible for smokeless powder (any kind) to do that kind of damage unless it had been deliberately confined and set off--not a normal practice during reloading. Something else was involved.
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October 11, 2021, 02:56 PM
DaveL
I don't know how the guy survived being that close to an explosion that powerful. Something seems off.
