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Are Americans eating too much beef?

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October 13, 2020, 10:44 AM
bendable
Are Americans eating too much beef?
The early A.M. Agri farm show said that America will be buying over a million pounds of beef from the U.K. as of January 1st.

over a billion dollars worth.


Can America not produce enough beef to feed it self ?





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October 13, 2020, 10:47 AM
Dzozer
No! It's still delicious... BEEF! It's what;s for dinner. Cool



Seriously though - all the burger, steak, taco, etc. restaurants are booming, and Costco along with some local grocery stores regularly runs out of this or that cut - and this is in Kansas!



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October 13, 2020, 10:52 AM
MRMATT
A million pounds at 1 billion dollars is $1,000/pound.


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October 13, 2020, 10:52 AM
BigSwede
Maybe them folks across the pond are getting more $$$ per pound for the beef here in the Great United States Of America



October 13, 2020, 10:58 AM
bendable
thats what I can not figure out ,
why it's a billion dollars worth ?


Import fee's ?
I am searching for the clip

unless they meant a billion for the whole year?





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October 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
Shaql
US to start importing beef after 24 yrs due to mad cow.


quote:
It is calculated the US market for British beef will be worth £66 million over the next five years.


Article from earlier this year.





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October 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
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October 13, 2020, 11:12 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
Can America not produce enough beef to feed it self ?


The meat industry as a whole was hit hard during the COVID shutdowns. Many of the meat processing facilities had to shut down for extended periods, which mean excess supply in animals awaiting slaughter, which caused livestock prices to plummet.

If you'll recall, many farmers/ranchers were basically giving away their stock back in April/May-ish, since it was costing them more to feed them then they could get for selling them. Some resorted to simply euthanizing and dumping their stock, to limit their losses.

As a result, it's easy to see how the ripple effects from that are likely contributing to a shortfall in supply now.

I know roast beef, my deli meat of choice, has been very tough to find for going on 6 months now.
October 13, 2020, 11:15 AM
RichardC
Its additional labor costs.
The beef is already boiled.


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October 13, 2020, 11:18 AM
chellim1
RogueJSK explained it well.
The supply will come back, but it will take time.

U.S. beef imports up 12% in 2020

The United States has imported 2.35 billion pounds of beef so far in 2020, up 11.5% from 2019.

The United States has imported the most beef so far in 2020 from Canada followed by Mexico & Australia. The United States has imported beef from 21 different countries so far in 2020.

https://beef2live.com/story-un...f-imports-204-107547



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October 13, 2020, 11:22 AM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
The early A.M. Agri farm show said that America will be buying over a million pounds of beef from the U.K. as of January 1st.
Are they going to label it as UK beef?

I've eaten at some high-end London steakhouses and it was only mediocre. My friends (as in multiple) who have had expat assignments to the UK say the same thing and go a step further saying the beef is not as good as American beef.



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October 13, 2020, 11:24 AM
mrvmax
Makes no difference to me, I buy my beef from a local rancher. It's grass fed and finished with no hormones. I buy half a cow at a time.
October 13, 2020, 11:39 AM
mark_a
^^^^^^^^^

As do I, until next spring. Then, we will be harvesting our own beef...
October 13, 2020, 11:43 AM
mrvmax
quote:
Originally posted by mark_a:
^^^^^^^^^

As do I, until next spring. Then, we will be harvesting our own beef...

Even better. I'd do that but I don't think my hoa would approve.
October 13, 2020, 11:45 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by mrvmax:
Even better. I'd do that but I don't think my hoa would approve.


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October 13, 2020, 11:45 AM
Shaql
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
The early A.M. Agri farm show said that America will be buying over a million pounds of beef from the U.K. as of January 1st.
Are they going to label it as UK beef?

I've eaten at some high-end London steakhouses and it was only mediocre. My friends (as in multiple) who have had expat assignments to the UK say the same thing and go a step further saying the beef is not as good as American beef.


There's a reason South American beef is so popular in the EU!





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October 13, 2020, 11:46 AM
HayesGreener
Maybe the Brits have finally figured out they don't know how to cook it? Someone once said the reason they colonized the world centuries ago is they were looking for a decent cook.


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October 13, 2020, 11:50 AM
sigalert
Time to pull a streak from the freezer. Smile





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October 13, 2020, 11:50 AM
joel9507
Free markets and all that. So, great that our market is open to UK beef.

But why? Is there something there like Kobe beef that we can't get here?

Somehow, with shipping capacity being somewhat hard to come by, beef being fairly perishable, and the current market situation, I can't imaging it being worth shipping beef from the UK, at present:

according to the WSJ (9/20)

quote:
Meat prices are falling at grocery stores as last spring’s shortages fade and livestock clog farms, benefiting consumers but hurting meatpackers and farmers already hit by Covid-19 disruptions.

Prices for ground beef and pork loins have returned to pre-pandemic levels, after surging as Covid-19 sickened meat-plant workers and forced shutdowns. Some products, including chicken wings and prime rib, are cheaper now than they were before the pandemic began, according to data from Nielsen.

Rising production and lower overall demand are pushing down meat prices.

October 13, 2020, 12:20 PM
mark_a
We were always going to start raising beef. We moved about 2 years early 2 years ago when all that beef was lost in the midwest floods. The shortage started then, it just took until now to be realized...

Of course, processing beef is now at a premium but I think that will sort itself out soon as there are plenty of people who see an opportunity.

The corporate meat industry either has to increase production while lowering prices or face new, smaller proecessors getting a firm foothold in the market. Their only other option is to tighten the regulatory process which they are very good at.

For us, we know how to butcher a cow. As we do pigs and all poultry. With a cow it is a pain but doable. It is completely legal for me to sell you a cow and you turn around and hire me to teach you how to process it. Is it a dance, yep but in the end we always win...

As far as shipping beef, Once it is slaughtered beef has to hang a certain period of time. Easy to have that time be in refrigerated containers on a ship slowly making its' way across the ocean...