I volunteer to teach 3 courses in a local prison unit. When each class completes a course, I give them a certificate and a chicken dinner with all the trimmings. This has worked smoothly for the last 10 or 12 yeas without having to supply any information that might be on a health department certificate. Now the State is requiring that information. The famous grocery chain that has been supplying the fried chicken and cold cuts for sandwiches doesn’t want to provide me that information. Is there any way to get it directly from the State of Texas even though the grocery chain’s corporate headquarters is reluctant to provide it?

Likely one of two reasons they don't want to provide; 1 - they don't have time (read: money) to get the info or 2, they wouldn't pass an inspection.

Ask how much a copy would cost.

Maybe call the local Office of the Department of Health and ask them. They might even be able to provide you with whatever info the State Prison System requires.

Take a clear picture of the certificate on the wall and convert that to a pdf document to print/email? I believe those certificates have to "be available for inspection" so you could certainly get close enough. Once you start snapping pics you may raise some eyebrows but you only need on clear and squared off pic!

The local health inspector confirmed that the permit should have been publicly displayed and available to me. Kroger wasn’t the only grocery chain with a deli and was hesitant to allow me to get the permit number off of it. We’ll see if I can get what I need to give the guys their chicken dinner.

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Likely one of two reasons they don't want to provide; 1 - they don't have time (read: money) to get the info or 2, they wouldn't pass an inspection.

Ask how much a copy would cost.

Or they don't want the OP who is not associated with their store, as in not under their control, covered by their insurance, untrained and uncertified by their established processes in safe food handling to be out in the stage prison system passing their food license around. It could make them liable for any issues. They don't know the OP from Adam, he could leave the chicken in his car for half a day at improper temperature and poison the who cell block as far as they know.

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Or they don't want the OP who is not associated with their store, as in not under their control, covered by their insurance, untrained and uncertified by their established processes in safe food handling to be out in the stage prison system passing their food license around. It could make them liable for any issues. They don't know the OP from Adam, he could leave the chicken in his car for half a day at improper temperature and poison the who cell block as far as they know.

Yeah, that’s probably what they were thinking after telling me they didn’t know where it was, then alleging that they weren’t required to have a permit because they weren’t a restaurant. I guess the fact that they handled and prepared food to be consumed on the premises wasn’t anything like a restaurant.

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Originally posted by TXJIM:

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Likely one of two reasons they don't want to provide; 1 - they don't have time (read: money) to get the info or 2, they wouldn't pass an inspection.

Ask how much a copy would cost.

Or they don't want the OP who is not associated with their store, as in not under their control, covered by their insurance, untrained and uncertified by their established processes in safe food handling to be out in the stage prison system passing their food license around. It could make them liable for any issues. They don't know the OP from Adam, he could leave the chicken in his car for half a day at improper temperature and poison the who cell block as far as they know.

Good call, didn't even consider this as it wouldn't be something I'd allow to happen if the food were in my control.