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I am ready to up grade from a 35 cent zippered coin purse for my chipped and stripped plastic cards.

The one I am looking at on Amazon claims to be "secure"
But
How does a body know ?
If in fact
The new wallet is in fact shielding the contents ?





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Posts: 55332 | Location: Henry County , Il | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Put out a local ad, "I'll be loitering around in front of Walmart to test my RFID wallet at 9 AM". Check your CC activity later that evening. Big Grin


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  1. Go on the "dark web." (no, I don't know how to do that)
  2. Buy a RFID reader. (*)
  3. test


* Apparently, no dark web needed to acquire a reader such as the Flipper Zero

Extra credit for capturing other folks card numbers and reporting back to the forum.

I suspect that many so-called blockers are nothing more than marketing hype. Case in point, Mrs. A. carries a blocker purse yet has had multiple card compromises for which we cannot determine any other method than an OTA read.
  
  
 
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Most of the RFID wallets I’ve seen are from China, so I don’t think I’d waste any money on them.

IMO, YMMV, EIEIO
 
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I put my proximity access card from work in my wallet and then test it with a few of the door access readers.
 
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I put my proximity access card from work in my wallet and then test it with a few of the door access readers.
Very clever! Please share your findings.
 
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Originally posted by arfmel:
Most of the RFID wallets I’ve seen are from China, so I don’t think I’d waste any money on them.

IMO, YMMV, EIEIO


The item I am looking at sells for $12.00.

I guess I should go look at youtubes





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Just wondering, how much of a risk it really is. What's the likelihood of having your card information stolen by an RFID reader, vs. other methods, like hacking a merchant account, or an unscrupulous waiter or store clerk?

Maybe I'm naive, but I'm just not worried about RFID data theft.



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RFID only airs the card number, not the additional data you usually need to use the card, expiration, CVV, and billing zip code. So, it isn't a wide-open access to your bank account. Yet, it still happens. But I agree with V-Tail, there are other avenues of compromise that are far more likely to happen.

Most card issuers these days provide a way to generate a unique virtual card number as needed, reissue a cardnumber, and/or change the CVV code with each transaction(Apple). Not that these are without their inconveniences, to be apprised of a CVV change, you need to have your iPhone with you, and all methods generate annoyances with recurring automatic payments.
 
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My wife and I use RFID blocker credit card sleeves. Each card has it's own sleeve then I just place them in my wallet.

My wife uses a anti theft/security purse when we go on vacation in the islands.
It is suppose to be RFID proof,have a cut resistant purse body and the strap has a steel cable in it so it cant be cut and have someone run off with it.




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Posts: 2658 | Location: Central Florida, south of the mouse | Registered: March 08, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Testing should be easy. Put one credit card in an empty wallet, then try to a make purchase using the 'tap' option somewhere by holding the wallet over the reader as you would with the credit card.

That said, it's easy to make any a cheap RFID shield for a folding wallet. Cut out a piece of paper a bit larger than a dollar bill so it fits in the cash part of the wallet. Wrap the paper with aluminum foil on both sides, then wrap that with packing tape. Insert that into the wallet in the cash section and any cards should be safe and unreadable. That worked for me and was tested with various readers to be just as good as RFID wallets you purchase.
 
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If I wrap my 50 sent zippered coin purse in foil and duct tape ?
Is that an option?





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What Apprentice posted.

Here’s another video saying the need for rfid protection is Minimal



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Originally posted by bendable:
If I wrap my 50 sent zippered coin purse in foil and duct tape ?
Is that an option?


That would work
 
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Thanks folks





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Posts: 55332 | Location: Henry County , Il | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The industry is perfectly suited to remove cash from our wallets. First, they create credit cards with mysterious chips. Then, they say the secure credit cards info can be stolen, by invisible electromagnetic waves. But, wait, there's more. Those waves can be blocked by substances that are not grounded nor able to dissipate electromagnetism. And, you can buy them here! It's a perfect scam. Create fear. Supply an antidote to fear. Make money.

Because no one but card-carrying amateur radio license holders has any idea what radio frequency ID means, the market is huge. The wallet? So old, so out of date, so inferior for modern cards. You need a real wallet. You need modern equipment.

I really despise charlatans.


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