Originally posted by Georgeair: I've always gone with fronts best on FWD, but have had a number of tire "experts" and stores recommend the exact opposite. Theory is more worn rears will be at risk of coming around on you in a panic stop in wet, slush, etc.
While I get that, I've still gambled that this will be less likely or frequent than the times I need to reduce hydroplaning and keep steering control on the front end.
This is correct. Front drive, rear drive, AWD... The answer is always to place the tires capable of generating the most friction on the rear of the vehicle. Lateral friction force stops the car from rotating.
100% of vehicle dynamics engineers agree. Put the new tires on the rear.
January 22, 2020, 06:51 PM
shovelhead
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Originally posted by h2oys: I just checked at www.tirerack.com and found the cheapest tire is $56/tire and are Uniroyal Tiger Paw touring.
The highest consumer rated tire is $103/tire and is the Firestone Weathergrip.
Nothing wrong with Tiger Paw Touring, both daughters needed tires and that it what I had them use.
I hope this helps.
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January 22, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jager
Experts know the new tires would go on the rear while the best of the worn tires would go on the back.
Reasoning is the rear tires will handle anything the front throws at them.
Put the new ones on the front and you're going to have a bad time.
While you wait to replace the front tires, adjust your driving accordingly.
The experts at Tire Rack say:
"Regardless of where the worn tires were removed from, when replacing a pair of tires, the new pair should always be installed on the rear axle. Installing the new tires (with full tread depth) on the rear axle will ensure that any differences in traction between the two pairs of tires will not lead to a dangerous oversteer situation. In an oversteer situation, the rear tires will begin to slide and can be very difficult to correct."
I have had great luck finding new take off's at the used tire places around me.
At the time, they were $30 each, mounted and balanced.
Sometimes you find 2, sometimes all 4.
January 22, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jus228
Tires are not something to cheap out on. It’s quite literally a matter of life or death. Use credit card if you have to. That’s the way I feel about it. I’m FAR from rich but my vehicles have always had good tires.
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January 22, 2020, 08:55 PM
ARman
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Originally posted by h2oys: I just checked at www.tirerack.com and found the cheapest tire is $56/tire and are Uniroyal Tiger Paw touring.
The highest consumer rated tire is $103/tire and is the Firestone Weathergrip.
I hope this helps.
Tire Rack also has Affirm as an option. Apply for the credit, no hit on your score for this, if approved pick this at checkout, the length of the loan and rates very, but most of the time they are reasonable.
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January 22, 2020, 08:56 PM
bubbatime
The two worst tires get replaced. Standard industry practice is to always put the new tires on the rear. Jim Bob might say otherwise, but million of dollars in research has been completed on this topic. Thats why its tire industry best practice to install new tires on the rear. A proper shop will not install them on the front, even if the customer ask.
The uniroyal touring tires for $50 are excellent. I bought a used car with those and they rode smooth, lasted a long time, and had excellent traction.
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January 22, 2020, 08:59 PM
clubleaf206
I have to say this has certainly been eye opening. I never would’ve thought of the logic of why,if only replacing a pair of tires,it should be the rear ones first.
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January 22, 2020, 09:05 PM
ChuckFinley
What size tires does your rude neighbor have? Might solve two problems
If you find a well reviewed used tire store nearby and are friendly and interested with the main man there they'll usually go a bit further to take care of you.
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January 22, 2020, 09:06 PM
Wolfpacker
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Originally posted by bubbatime: The two worst tires get replaced. Standard industry practice is to always put the new tires on the rear. Jim Bob might say otherwise, but million of dollars in research has been completed on this topic. Thats why its tire industry best practice to install new tires on the rear. A proper shop will not install them on the front, even if the customer ask.
The uniroyal touring tires for $50 are excellent. I bought a used car with those and they rode smooth, lasted a long time, and had excellent traction.
I have used the Uniroyal Touring tires also. No problems and good wear. I also agree about using credit card if necessary. Will not matter much about debt if you hydroplane in front of an oncoming semi probably.
January 22, 2020, 09:07 PM
MooneyP226
I did tires for a while professionally. I had the privilege of being invited for advanced training at Michelin North America HQ in SC.
New tires always go on the rear.
Uniroyal makes a good tire. So good, Michelin bought Uniroyal in 1990 and still owns the brand today. Yes, Uniroyal is a Michelin subsidiary with an added benefit... most of their tires are made in the US and/ or Canada.
I’d spend my limited funds on Uniroyal in a heartbeat. Go for four, but if you really only can do 2, new on rear, rebalance and best two to front. No rotating until you get two more- forever. If you do, then the better will be on the front and that’s already established as no bueno.
Just buy the four. It’s not just your life you could save in an emergency.
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January 22, 2020, 09:42 PM
schrack
Local junk yard, laugh if you must but, many new autos get crashed, sometimes you can get the tires cheap.
January 22, 2020, 09:52 PM
Warhorse
I’m surprised to hear everyone saying to put new tires on the rear. Of course I’m an older guy and haven’t bought just two tires since I was a teenager in the early 70’s. In those days of rear wheel drive I was told to put the new tires on the front. If a tire blew out on the rear it was easier to safely pull the car over, if a front tire were to have a blow out, it was harder to control the car safely. That’s how I was taught.
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January 22, 2020, 10:38 PM
jimmy123x
Put new ones on the Front is what I was always told when in the automotive business over 20 years ago, but most experts say differently. I wouldn't mess with used. After seeing a few, recently purchased used tires come apart in my younger years. I won't touch them. Tires (and brakes) are the two highest safety items on your car, don't skimp in those departments. I'm surprised also people are saying to put new tires on the rear, as the fronts do 70% of the stopping.
Try Walmart, at the one here they had a giant tire sell off of tires they had in stock and want to move, dirt cheap...….$25-75 a tire for brand new tires.This message has been edited. Last edited by: jimmy123x,
January 22, 2020, 11:37 PM
badcopnodonut!!
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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge: What tire size do you have?
P195/60R15
I’m confused, how does tire size play into it?
Club, check out Craigslist in your area. Also, Facebook marketplace if you use it.
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January 23, 2020, 01:11 AM
MooneyP226
I’ll say it again... new to rear.
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They all agree. Run it across your favorite search engine.
Just search on Google and every search result will say the same thing.
Doesn't matter the drivetrain, doesn't matter the car. New tires on the rear.
January 23, 2020, 10:55 AM
gpbst3
For your size tires you should be able to get all four new at walmart for $250.
Pony up and find the money.
If you cant get to work or where your going to going to loose money. Get in a crash and there goes your deductible. I tired the used tire route on a leased vehicle and it didnt work out had to buy new tires anyways.
January 23, 2020, 11:06 AM
bdylan
I'll admit I've always bought two tires at a time and I've always put them on the front. This thread is a veritable public service announcement. Thanks!
January 23, 2020, 12:11 PM
bendable
just a thought , Hows about you go up to the Discount tire on 21st st.
and pick out the four tires you want for your car .
get an estimate and we'll see if we , here on the forum can help you out with a pair, and you pay for the other pair?
How's thAt sound ?
$75.00 for two tires divided by $15.00 a piece = 5 members .
I know I have $15.00 left over from santa clause, Shirley there must be four others.
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