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Real dollars - real happiness?
February 04, 2023, 05:56 PM
konata88Real dollars - real happiness?
I read the news and I see my financial accounts and I can calculate various things. For example real dollars, (just for concept), my salary is less today than it was 5 years ago. My 401k balance is less today than it was 5 years ago. My house is worth less today than it was 4 years ago.
I need a metric for real happiness. I'm somewhat happy. I'm more grateful that I'm still employed and living comfortably than I am happy. Especially after reading the news, current affairs and socio-economic-cultural trends. It's important to stay up to date; on the other hand, there isn't much good going on.
Do I still feel happy. Yes, to an extent. But if I could measure it, I think my real happiness is less than it was 10 years ago. Kind of depressing as I approach retirement. Approaching retirement should be exciting, not one of apprehension and concern.
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book February 04, 2023, 06:06 PM
PrefontaineEvery single day is a gift. Christ got tortured on the Cross and died for you. Act accordingly and immensely grateful.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
February 04, 2023, 06:08 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
I need a metric for real happiness.
How about "Above ground and breathing, and not living in the days before antibiotics"?
The only people who are happy all the time are some of the insane and some of the blithering idiot oxygen thieves running around on this rock. Happiness is a temporary state of affairs. It's better to strive for contentment, because contentment, unlike happiness, is sustainable.
February 04, 2023, 06:16 PM
BigSwedeRemind yourself about how shitty it could be
2010-2014ish were hell for me, didn't think I would make it
I'm here, happy, doing well and thankful for what I have
February 04, 2023, 06:27 PM
konata88Contentment and grateful. Wise words to live by.
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book February 04, 2023, 06:39 PM
braillediverI'm happy and grateful for what I have.
Real happiness comes from inside, knowing you're trying, staying focused on the here and now, taking things in stride and doing what you can on a local level to improve things in some small way.
Lots of people have more than me, lots have less. Not many have my ability or skill. I've led a blessed life and I'm Thankful Everyday for that.
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February 04, 2023, 06:42 PM
scratchyHealthy, housed, fed, very little debt and an occasional extravagance. I'm good. Been through hell, this isn't it

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February 04, 2023, 07:02 PM
PHPaulWhat Para said (big surprise there...) plus turn the TV off and don't pay any attention to the "mainstream" media. The ones that aren't full of shit are outright liars.
I'm not saying don't stay aware of what's going on in the world, I'm saying vet your sources. I find that if I need to know about it, I find it here.
“Anyone who imagines that bliss is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around shouting that he has been robbed. The fact is that most putts don’t drop, most beef is tough, most children grow up to be just like people, most successful marriages require a high degree of mutual toleration, and most jobs are more often dull than otherwise. Life is just like an old time rail journey … delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust, cinders, and jolts, interspersed only occasionally by beautiful vistas and thrilling bursts of speed. The trick is to thank the Lord for letting you have the ride.”Attributed to Gordon B. Hinckley - correctly to the best of my knowledge.
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
February 04, 2023, 07:03 PM
.38supersigTake a minute and think about all of the really bad stuff that never happened to you.
February 04, 2023, 07:35 PM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
I need a metric for real happiness.
Then, I fear, you're doomed to forever be pursuing it.
In my seventy-two years it never once occurred to me I needed to define a set of metrics by which I might gauge my happiness.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher February 04, 2023, 07:40 PM
1flynDOMoney is not where it is at. Period. It allows me to purchase things and gifts but offers no happiness. Security and peace of mind. I am fulfilled. It has been a hell of a ride. Army LRS, paramedic, Cath jockey, doc, army anesthesiologist.
Do I look back with regrets. Absolutely about relationships, not money. I am absolutely satisfied with my life. Could it be better sure. It could be a hell of a lot worse. Been to Kuwait City downtown and Detroit lately?
February 04, 2023, 07:50 PM
1s1kDon’t rely on others for your happiness and don’t base it on money. Generation after generation has thought the world was about to end and with the internet that prevailing thought is reinforced like never before. Quit going back to places that reinforce your doomsday scenarios.
February 04, 2023, 07:51 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by 1s1k:
Quit going back to places that reinforce your doomsday scenarios.
I can't go to WalMart anymore?
February 04, 2023, 08:06 PM
konata88Although my wife frequently corrects my perspective, sometimes I get disgruntled. I still need the occasional reminders that, like Para and ya'll are saying, being content and grateful are some of the right attitudes to have.
What I think contributes to the dissatisfaction are not, for example, the financial losses per se but rather the feelings of helplessness and lack of control (over ones destiny). People like FJB doing stupid shit. People destroying a community and then moving to locations I had one day hope to move to.
Thanks for the reminder, guys, that I actually have it pretty good. A little more control and predictability might be nice but it would be gravy at this point. Despite whatever I might complain about, life could be much worse.
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book February 04, 2023, 08:24 PM
quil57The only measure that will give you satisfaction is the happiness you give others.
Just a smile and a "good morning" while making eye contact with a person can make a person's day.
You don't have to be a Mother Theresa of Calcutta but if she could know happiness then by just doing what we can to those around us day by day, we can also know happiness.
February 04, 2023, 08:48 PM
egregoreFinancial stability isn't the be-all-and-end-all, but is certainly a
component of happiness.
quote:
My 401k balance is less today than it was 5 years ago. My house is worth less today than it was 4 years ago.
A large percentage of Americans have little or no savings
at all, let alone a 401(k) or their own home. So you're doing better than them.
February 04, 2023, 09:06 PM
9mmepiphanyquote:
What I think contributes to the dissatisfaction are not, for example, the financial losses per se but rather the feelings of helplessness and lack of control (over ones destiny).
Feeling a need to control things that you have no control over is what causes unhappiness. Accepting that you can't control how things will always change is how you stopping feeling helpless.
Happiness is transitory at best. What you should be working toward is contentment and joy.
Joy comes from helping others and not judging them
No, Daoism isn't a religion
February 04, 2023, 09:10 PM
9mmepiphanyquote:
My house is worth less today than it was 4 years ago.
I'm not sure how that is even possible.
My house is worth 3 times what it was 4 years ago, I'm pretty sure inflation hasn't kept up with the housing market in the area...even allowing that it has slowed down a bit since folks are returning to work
No, Daoism isn't a religion
February 04, 2023, 09:14 PM
Rey HRHWhen I was depressed about my life situation, I read the book from which the quote in my signature line comes from. I highly recommend you read the book, too.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
February 04, 2023, 09:47 PM
signewtI was told long ago that 'money won't buy happiness'.....but it
will rent you a good time now & then.....