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Chelsea Handler's grandfather was a Nazi

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August 17, 2017, 06:05 PM
mrbill345
Chelsea Handler's grandfather was a Nazi
Chelsea Handler, Who Calls Trump a Nazi, Finds Out Her Grandfather Was Actual Nazi

Talk about karma.

quote:
Chelsea Handler, whose favorite pastime is shouting abuse at conservatives on Twitter, often calling them Nazis, was just informed on TV that her grandfather was an actual Nazi.

In a new episode of TLC’s Who Do You Think You Are, Chelsea Handler discovers exactly what role her grandfather, Karl Stoecker, played in World War 2, and the history of her family.

Quivering and shaking after being told the news, Handler traces his path from Nazi soldier to American immigrant through documents and interviews with sources familiar with her family’s history.

Handler’s story is made all the more compelling by the fact that was she raised Jewish in a family of faith.

‘My father, I guess, made a deal with my mother when they had children that they were gonna be raised Jewish,’ Handler says. ‘So I connect with my Judaism, or the Jewish side of my family, more than anything else.'

Daily Mail reports: Growing up, Handler had no idea that her grandfather – a ‘very, very strong man‘ she describes as having a ‘sense of humour‘ – had a dark past.

In the episode, she reveals that he was taken as a prisoner of war to America, where he likely stayed in Montana for several years.

‘When he went back to Germany, he was very eager to come and take his family and move them back to the United States,’ Handler says.

But even after the new immigrant family settled down, the subject of wartime Germany was always avoided by her grandfather.

‘My German grandma definitely spoke about her life during the war way more than my grandfather did,‘ Handler says. ‘He never spoke about it.’

That was probably for good reason, but when all is said and done, Handler may now be less willing to label everybody who disagrees with her a ‘Nazi.’


According to IMDB , the episode is Season 4, Episode 3 and aired August 6, 2013.

(Para, if you feel this belongs ini the Trump thread, I apologize & will add it)



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August 17, 2017, 06:11 PM
Lord Vaalic
Ha ha... I guess you'll be tearing up all your pictures of him and burning anything he ever gave you, right bitch?




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August 17, 2017, 06:19 PM
mrapteam666
I wonder if he was part of the Waffen SS or the Wehrmacht
August 17, 2017, 06:20 PM
JALLEN
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.

We abolished corruption of blood centuries ago.

Everybody is responsible for their own mistakes, and certainly not those of remote ancestors.

Now, if your parents raise you to be hateful or irresponsible or both, that's on them, and you.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
August 17, 2017, 06:29 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by mrapteam666:
I wonder if he was part of the Waffen SS or the Wehrmacht


The article doesn't say.

However, based on a photo from that article of a SA-Leistungsbuch, he may have been a member of the Sturmabteilung (Brownshirts). That would mean that he was likely a Nazi Party member.



Another image from the article shows a group of SA Brownshirts (perhaps including her grandfather) posing with an Anti-Jewish banner reading "The Jew is not a citizen but just a strangler".


August 17, 2017, 06:39 PM
Jeff Yarchin
Forgive me, but that is freaking hilarious. Big Grin
August 17, 2017, 06:43 PM
BigCity
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.

We abolished corruption of blood centuries ago.

Everybody is responsible for their own mistakes, and certainly not those of remote ancestors.

Now, if your parents raise you to be hateful or irresponsible or both, that's on them, and you.


Well there you go, the argument against reparations have been made.


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August 17, 2017, 06:44 PM
Rightwire
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.

We abolished corruption of blood centuries ago.

Everybody is responsible for their own mistakes, and certainly not those of remote ancestors.

Now, if your parents raise you to be hateful or irresponsible or both, that's on them, and you.



Someone needs to explain this to the BLM and Anti-fa groups as they clearly don't understand this concept.




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August 17, 2017, 06:44 PM
corsair
Hitler was democratically elected by the people who were fed up with Bruning and later Hindenburg. Considering the times, it was not unusual for many people to be supportive of the Nazi party then. Joining the brownshirts or, SA...well, that's another issue all together. You might as well put-on a black hoody and go look to beat-up somebody who has differing political views than you.
August 17, 2017, 06:46 PM
H&K-Guy
If only there was some means of quantifying just how much I don't care.

H&K-Guy
August 17, 2017, 06:46 PM
RogueJSK
After a little more digging, it appears that her grandfather was drafted into the Heer (army) shortly after the start of the war in 1939. He served with several artillery units, including a term on the Eastern Front. He was eventually captured by American soldiers in southern France in August 1944.
August 17, 2017, 06:46 PM
Gustofer
My father was a lifelong proud IBEW member. I hate unions with a passion.

Gotta go with JAllen on this one.


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August 17, 2017, 06:55 PM
MPB
Now if Chelsea Handler wants to label someone she has a coded phrase....

"You remind me of my Grandfather"
August 17, 2017, 06:58 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.
It matters because it matters to her and her kind, such as Ben Affleck, who tried to erase his slave owning great grandaddy from his family history. They think they should be embarrassed, so they are embarrassed. It's not that we're judging them for their ancestors- they are putting their own head on the chopping block, mea culpa, mea culpa. Assholes
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
Forgive me, but that is freaking hilarious. Big Grin
I couldn't agree more. Big Grin


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August 17, 2017, 07:06 PM
egregore
I'd like to say she shouldn't feel bad about the sins of her ancestors, but she and her ilk are always laying a guilt trip on us for the same thing. So ha ha.
August 17, 2017, 07:07 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.
It matters because it matters to her and her kind, such as Ben Affleck, who tried to erase his slave owning great grandaddy from his family history. They think they should be embarrassed, so they are embarrassed. It's not that we're judging them for their ancestors- they are putting their own head on the chopping block, mea culpa, mea culpa. Assholes


Yeah, but if they are assholes, it doesn't matter who their granddaddy was.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
August 17, 2017, 07:21 PM
arcwelder
Now she just needs to find out that her great great great grandfather owned slaves. Because that would just be the cherry on top. Her lib guiltometer would be pegged.


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August 17, 2017, 07:46 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Ha ha... I guess you'll be tearing up all your pictures of him and burning anything he ever gave you, right bitch?


If we follow the course of Leftists and apply their principle of collective culpability then Chelsie would also need to be erradicated. Not so appealling as a recipient, right Ms. Handler?

ETA: This is why I oft repeat there is no bottom to the pit of Political Correctness/Social Justice. If we don't find a way to put it down, it will consume us all to the last. No human alive nor to come is pure enough to escape its clutches.



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August 17, 2017, 08:09 PM
TigerDore
Karma's a bitch, and so is Chelsea.



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August 17, 2017, 09:29 PM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
So what?

That was him, she is her, whoever she is.
It matters because it matters to her and her kind, such as Ben Affleck, who tried to erase his slave owning great grandaddy from his family history. They think they should be embarrassed, so they are embarrassed. It's not that we're judging them for their ancestors- they are putting their own head on the chopping block, mea culpa, mea culpa. Assholes
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
Forgive me, but that is freaking hilarious. Big Grin
I couldn't agree more. Big Grin

Yep. Funny as hell. They want to blame all white people due to "corruption of melanin (lack of)". It's fun to hoist them on their own petard. Fuck 'em.




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