https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnddjdweyg4o

What an a$$hole.

The awful part is that apart from this he WAS a great police officer - rising from plain constable to Chief Constable apparently on his own merits.

However, he lied to get the job as a police officer, so that really cancels out all the good points.

Was he also the one who was subject of a “Stolen Valor” inquiry by falsely claiming and wearing the Falklands Island Campaign Medal ?

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...he lied to get the job as a police officer, so that really cancels out all the good points.

According to the article, "It emerged that he had lied when applying for the post of chief constable, claiming to have served in the navy for a decade and risen to the rank of lieutenant - both of which were untrue."

Not sure if he lied, when he applied to just get the police officer job initially.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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...he lied to get the job as a police officer, so that really cancels out all the good points.

According to the article, "It emerged that he had lied when applying for the post of chief constable, claiming to have served in the navy for a decade and risen to the rank of lieutenant - both of which were untrue."

Not sure if he lied, when he applied to just get the police officer job initially.

Right, you read it better than I did. Apologies.

'Rising to the rank of lieutenant' is something that most RN officers make in three years...

Sad way to end a career.

This is from Wikipedia after all, however, if even a small fraction is accurate, it sounds like he's had a difficult time with the truth for some time.

Nick Adderly

So, a LEO supervisor with honesty issues…. The defense bar got Christmas a bit early…

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
This is from Wikipedia after all, however, if even a small fraction is accurate, it sounds like he's had a difficult time with the truth for some time.

Nick Adderly

Here in UK we call such fantasists 'Walts' after the fictitious Walter Mitty of writer James Thurber - a man who'd done everything, everywhere, with everyone. We most often use the term for valour thieves.

Some here might be unfamiliar with Royal Navy ranks, but it's amazing that a 'serving officer' might be unsure as to whether or not he is a Lieutenant [equiv. Army Captain] or Commander [equiv. Army Lt Colonel] I certainly knew the difference when I was in the Army. An Able Seaman, BTW, is the lowest grade of professionally-qualified naval personnel in the Royal Navy.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
An Able Seaman, BTW, is the lowest grade of professionally-qualified naval personnel in the Royal Navy.

What gets me in virtually every instance like this: There's nothing at all dishonorable about his ACTUAL service (unless the "served under two years" part is code for a bad ending). But rather than simply taking the nod for the good he actually did... he creates a fiction that anyone with 10 minutes in the business knows will never stand up to scrutiny.

Totally agree. Lying on your CV, especially for a position like that, is a big deal. It undermines trust, which is crucial for a police chief. It’s a shame, though, because it sounds like he had a solid career otherwise.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
This is from Wikipedia after all, however, if even a small fraction is accurate, it sounds like he's had a difficult time with the truth for some time.

Nick Adderly

Here in UK we call such fantasists 'Walts' after the fictitious Walter Mitty of writer James Thurber - a man who'd done everything, everywhere, with everyone. ...

Walts. I like that!

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Originally posted by DennisM:
What gets me in virtually every instance like this: There's nothing at all dishonorable about his ACTUAL service (unless the "served under two years" part is code for a bad ending).

I totally agree. Serving is serving - two months or two years, he signed the 'blank cheque' same as we all did.

Leaving because your 'services are no longer required' = aka dishonourable discharge, would mean that he was unlikely EVER to become a police officer in UK.

This reminded me of Chief Naval Office Admiral Boorda. First sailor to rise from the lowest enlisted rank to become a four-star admiral and the Navy's top commander.

He committed suicide on questions of him being able to wear combat pins (V) decorations to two of his ribbons.

He entered the Navy on a lie, lying about his age, and most people say, needlessly exited the Navy on a lie or an oversight.