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The leftists can sure dish it out but they sure the fuck cannot take it at all.

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They can't respond in a logical way, because the truth is on our side, so all they can do is to try to shut us up.
 
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Big Tech is actively silencing Conservatism on their platforms and it's only going to ramp up as they get more desperate. Mad

Purge, censor, and silence: Tech giants go full-Orwell to prepare for 2020 elections


 
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Twitter.

Never Joined
Never Left
Never will join.

Twitter is for twits (no offense intended). Razz

Correction: I do make one exception:

I follow President Trumps Tweets

Here https://twitter.com/POTUS

and

Here https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

I would not even follow these if I had to join to do it.




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This is a real shame.

I wouldn't know. I logged off my Twitter account after they banned the third non-leftist in as many months. After not logging back on for six months I logged back on and deactivated my account.

I've also curtailed my Facebook usage drastically. And I prune any activity over 48 hours old.



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Is there another platform for Woods to get his word out on?

As Tim Pool pointed out, these social media platforms are one day going to force the government to regulate them. They've become too big and becoming more oppressive. Private company and all that I know, but the the truth is that if you don't have a voice on these platforms, you are essentially being silenced.

Something is going change. I'm hoping that it is the people who make the change, but I fear it may be the government who is forced to step in.


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Big Tech is actively silencing Conservatism on their platforms and it's only going to ramp up as they get more desperate. Mad

Purge, censor, and silence: Tech giants go full-Orwell to prepare for 2020 elections

Yep.

Another article about this today:

May 10, 2019
The Next Battlefront: Social Media
By Rick Hayes

Imagine a day when newspapers only publish articles regarding the benefits of late-term abortions, socialism, and open borders. Where history books vilify Republican conservatives for fighting to defend slavery, inciting segregation, and founding the KKK. Cable news shows would only report crimes committed by conservatives or capitalists and social media only allowed leftist ideas to be communicated over their platforms.

Well, if the left continues its scorched-earth policy against free speech, in no time at all the United States will have no resemblance to what the Founding Fathers envisioned. So many examples exist that fully detail the poverty, violence, and atrocities that quickly emerge when free speech is taken away that it raises the question as to why so many younger Americans are indifferent about the loss of such an important right.

In a chapter titled "The Mass Media in the Service of Soviet Communism and Post-Communist Russia" written by Lee Edwards as part of Paul Hollander's book Political Violence, Lenin is reported to have said, "A newspaper is not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, it is also a collective organizer." In other words, today's mainstream media would fit quite well into Lenin's view of what a newspaper was meant to be. However, the communication landscape is now rapidly changing, and a noticeable shift by leftists to control the new social media powerhouse has emerged.

As of March 31, 2019, there are over 2.38 billion monthly active Facebook users (MAU) worldwide with Twitter reporting 326 million global MAU for the third quarter of 2018 and YouTube claiming 1.3 billion users. Moreover, all are solidly left-leaning and quickly heading to the far left. If social media were around during Lenin's time, there is no doubt that he would be focusing his efforts to propagandize that powerful platform as well.

According to a piece in the June 2017 publication, Social Media Insider, "social media's real killer app is spreading propaganda, disinformation, and fake news, according to a new study from the University of Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project.” Also mentioned, "In Russia, the researchers discovered the conversation on Twitter is carefully managed by automated accounts: in fact, 45% of all Twitter activity in Russia is produced by bots." It is not only Russia but also China that controls every aspect of the lives of its people with the super life-directing app called “WeChat” developed by the Chinese Tech company Tencent. With over one billion registered accounts the app collects and shares with the Chinese government, every conceivable bit of data about its users.

In the beginning, social media in the United States were seen as the new oasis of free thought and speech, but after making a hard left turn, they are quickly painting conservative viewpoints into a corner. The handful of leftist cyberspace dictators are forcing users to think and say only what has been deemed appropriate. When Facebook states that it is protecting their users by preventing certain kinds of speech, in reality what they are doing is tilling the soil for future propaganda and control.

A 2018 Investor's Business Daily editorial stated that GovPredict, a Silicon Valley political data research firm, found that over the last 14 years that employees of Alphabet (the parent of Google) "gave 90% of their political donations, or $15.5 million, to Democrats. Republicans took in a mere $1.6 million." The editorial added that another study found that since 2006, Amazon employees gave 90% of their political donations to Democratic political action committees. "So claims that the social media giants are politically neutral is a joke," the editorial concluded.

Donations are one thing, actively eliminating free speech and different points of view are another. Conservative radio talk show host Michael Savage became an early example of how the left systematically eliminates conservatives one by one by first selecting an individual and then separating him from the herd to be attacked. On May 5, 2009, Savage was banned from the U.K. and added to a list containing terrorists and racist leaders from around the world. The reason given was that comments made by Savage fostered hatred, although no specific examples were given.

A short time ago Facebook took it upon itself to ban Louis Farrakhan and Alex Jones, saying they violated its ban on "dangerous individuals." San Francisco AP stated that Facebook, "also removed right-wing personalities Paul Nehlen, Milo Yiannopoulos, Paul Joseph Watson and Laura Loomer, along with Jones' site, Infowars." It added that the ban extended to fan pages and other related accounts. Also, recently, conservative writer David Horowitz was banned from Twitter without explanation.

Apart from criticism from President Trump and a few conservative cable TV hosts, objections have quickly died down. Right-leaning users who have survived the initial purges might consider themselves lucky and feel relatively secure as long as they do not cross the leftist line, but that is more wishful thinking than fact. As with all cases of tyranny, the list of who is guilty of saying whatever is considered inappropriate at the time continually expands until a moment arrives when only particular kinds of thoughts and words are allowed.

With their freedoms in jeopardy, will young conservatives take to the streets like their counterparts and protest the unfair treatment by social media? According to an August 2018 Gallup Poll a little over a third of Americans, 36%, say they have "ever felt the urge to organize or participate in a public demonstration about something." but of that figure, 60% were liberal, and only 21% were conservative. The bottom line is that a majority of conservatives do not protest or even get involved when it comes to politics.

For the most part, conservatives have acknowledged that mainstream media have been overtaken and controlled by the left. However, they may not be aware that they are perilously close to losing their ability to communicate their opinions via social media. With the mainstream media overwhelmingly rigged against conservatives, there is little chance for them to publicly mount any objections and publicize countermeasures via the traditional media methods. It is going to require a bold move way outside the box to have conservative views back in the public square. What we are seeing is more than just an assault on free speech, it is the laying down of the groundwork needed for changing the consciousness of America by brainwashing its youth. Case in point, according to a September 2017 Forbes article, a Brookings Institution poll found that 40% of college students don’t believe the First Amendment protects hate speech, 50% said that the proper way to deal with upsetting speech is to shut it down, and 19% said physical violence is an acceptable way of shutting it down.

Social media are slowly and methodically chiseling away at what they see as offensive conservative views by outlawing conservative expression in a hypocritical call for decency. The First Amendment does not have to be abolished in order for all Americans to lose the remaining Bill of Rights. All it takes is the inability of a society to communicate openly with one another. Social media can either help this nation counter the lopsided propaganda of the mainstream media or help turn the American people into a suppressed collection of likeminded robots.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...a.html#ixzz5nXDxf3fO



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I agree with you, Alan.

“As our case is new so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we can save our country.”

We have never faced a similar situation. William Randolph Hearst could only have dreamed of the size of the audience and the insidious nature of shaping of opinion we are seeing today.

Then, of course, I see Sen. Blumenthal on the news calling for the break-up of Facebook, and I KNOW I don’t want to be on the same side as that guy!

And Matt, thanks for posting that article, excellent summary of the problem.


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I created a Twitter account for work reasons (really!). I rarely use it.

The other day I couldn't stand it any longer, and I tweeted that Jerry Nadler (D-NY), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee who just managed to get a Contempt of Congress citation against William Barr for not breaking the law, was a mental midget.

My account is still active. I guess I fly too far under their radar to warrant their brownshirts coming after me.




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I understand the private property, you're in my home, I don't have to tolerate your rights here argument.

That said, at what point do these huge platforms designed for communications become a utility like the telephone company. Some may say "well they don't charge you", but they actually do. While they don't take your money in exchange, they do take your information and trade that for money.

Can the phone company turn off service because they don't like what you use their phone lines to talk about?


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Private company and all that


There isn't a SINGLE private company in this country that is not regulated by the government in some way shape or form. Everyone who claims "they are a private company they can do whatever they want" (not you Balze) is absolutely incorrect. The only thing a private company can do is start up and close down. Everything in the middle is regulated by the government somehow.
 
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Is there another platform for Woods to get his word out on?

Perhaps gab or Dissenter?



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Getting him off Twitter is what they wanted and what they got.




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I'm not a tech guy so I don't understand what's so complex about creating a Twitter platform.

Trump has over 50 million followers on Twitter. If he and other well known conservatives abandoned Twitter for an alternate platform, it could damage Twitter irreparably.

Why isn't this done? Why do they continue to put up with this bullshit?
 
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Getting millions of people to use it is the real problem.
 
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I wish I had the capital, to design a social media platform that would be in direct competition to Facebook, Twitter. That would truly not interfere with posts except illegal activity, keep secure and not share personal data. Not an easy thing to wish for I realize.


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I wish I had the capital, to design a social media platform that would be in direct competition to Facebook, Twitter. That would truly not interfere with posts except illegal activity, keep secure and not share personal data. Not an easy thing to wish for I realize.


^^^^^^ I wonder if Fox News or NRA or a Cable Service would do something like that?




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James Woods said he “paraphrased Emerson.” Curious, I looked up what Emerson actually said:

“When you strike at a king, you must kill him.”

― Ralph Waldo Emerson

What would have happened if Wood had simply quoted Emerson?



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Emerson was paraphrasing Machiavelli, in The Prince. So, this is a point of view that is well established in Western thought. (And it just so happens to be true.) For Twitter to suspend him is ignorant and tyrannical.

Social media outlets have immense power, and they have amply demonstrated that they are incapable of wielding it responsibly. Just look at the way Milo has been shut down. Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, especially, can place individuals on the public stage, or they can remove them.

Someone like Woods is anathema to them. They cannot deal with his ideas, and the way he exposes the hypocrisy and totalitarianism of the Left. So they shut him up.

On Para's point, above: This is why the Left is increasingly violent. We see instances everywhere. They are flat out wrong about everything, and they know it. So, they cannot argue. All they can do is silence.

What I think we need to grasp is that these are seriously dangerous individuals. If you wonder what kind of people could create the Gulags, or the Red Guard-- here they are, folks. They are everywhere on the Left: Nadler, Pelosi, Reiner,
Zuckerberg, Moore, Soros, Bloomberg, Cooper, and on and on, in politics, news, entertainment.

For the latest travesty, Michelle Malkin has been censored on Facebook. Her transgression? She offered support for Laura Loomer and Gavin McInnes, who were both banned from Facebook and Instagram for exercising their free speech. Here is the Facebook post that got her in trouble:

These are two of my friends, Laura Loomer and Gavin McInnes. They are banned from Facebook and Instagram for exercising their free speech — while violent jihad groups are allowed on these platforms to spread their murderous poison. I spoke out passionately about de-platforming at CPAC and have done what I can to use my voice to speak for the voiceless. Laura and Gavin are suing the radical forces (SPLC and CAIR) behind the insidious agenda to criminalize political dissent. I have donated to their causes and hope you will too (DefendGavin.com and LauraLoomer.us). I do not know how much longer it will be before I am next. Anyone and everyone who refuses to capitulate to the open-borders, sharia-enforcing social justice agenda is “DANGEROUS.”

https://www.breitbart.com/tech...opposing-censorship/


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There is a solution. Break'em up using anti-trust laws.





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