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We just got back from vacation and one of our neighbors just dropped this bombshell on us.

A little background. We live in an HOA (no comments please). We bought the house to be close to our first granddaughter when our son had a sudden deployment and the baby was a couple of months old. We live about 100 yards away and we had been going back and forth to each others houses through a neighbors yard who encouraged us to do so. That neighbor has recently developed Dimensia and we were told that their son (now about 58) had moved in with them to help out. Very admirable.

BUT..

He has SIX convictions for child sexual abuse. They were about 12 years ago but everything I’ve read is that these tendencies don’t go away easily.

To make matters worse my son just deployed again and so my DIL and Grand daughter live alone, albeit close to us. She just started first grade and is truly beautiful and very outgoing. I’ve researched HOA rules and it doesn’t seem possible to exclude this scum from living here.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, particularly from and LEO’s.


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I don't think there is anything that you can do. He is probably required to register as a Sex Offender and failure to do so is a crime .Take the usual precautions and make sure the little one is aware of the " Stranger - Danger " thing and is to have ZERO interaction with him. No more shortcuts across the property . EVER .
 
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Check with the county, see if he's required to register, and if there are any rules regarding living near children, schools, parks.

If you have a school nearby and the house is within any restrictions on a registered offender being close.

Make sure all your neighbors and the HOA knows about this person, there could be some covenants that you could use, doubtful, but possible depends on the state laws.
 
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It’s usually not the ones who are registered that you need to worry about…
 
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HRK is spot on!

I would add to check to see if he actually IS registered.


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I doubt there is anything you can do about it except to tell them to beware. I have them in my neighborhood and have never had an issue. When we live in neighborhoods we give up the ability to choose who can move in close to us. It can be avoided by living in rural areas but that is not possible for everyone.
 
Posts: 5219 | Location: Friendswood Texas | Registered: August 24, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I would be very clear to the child that this person is a very bad man even if he seems nice. Emphasize that she is to stay away from him no matter what, no matter where, no matter when. Tell her it is ok to be rude to him. Tell her to inform her mother and/or you if she ever has any kind of interaction with him.

We generally teach our kids to be polite and respectful. This can short circuit their ability to protect themselves even when their gut tells them something is wrong.

One of my granddaughters, now in 3rd grade, is headstrong and independent. She's getting better but it is in her nature to test every limit. It would be difficult to be confident she would abide instructions to stay away from such a neighbor. Plus, children just aren't experienced (hopefully) in understanding evil or danger. "Don't play with matches" didn't stop me and my friends from doing so. The point being that your granddaughter will need repeated admonitions about this guy, and still need to be watched over.

I'd inform all of her friends' parents and enlist them in setting rules with their kids.

Imo, pedophilia is not curable or changeable. A person is attracted to what they are attracted to by hardwiring in the brain. His age is not going to lessen his danger either. Multiple convictions is a serious thing, as most people never get convicted even when caught. Like DUI, there are many violations before a conviction typically happens. To f'n bad if he is a neighborhood pariah, he earned it. I would not play nice given the lifelong terrible effects it would have on your granddaughter were she victimized.
 
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Thanks for all the constructive comments so far.

I went to the head of the HOA this morning and they were not aware of this and were very concerned. They are going to present the info to the full board and ask the attorney what rights ( if any) we have.

The individual is registered in the state and county as evidenced by the listing below…



https://sexoffender.ncsbi.gov/...ls.aspx?srn=043062S8


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As mentioned, if you are concerned, research the question, including your local laws. But this was part of the response when I asked the Internet if there were restrictions on how close sex offenders could legally live to residences with young children:

“Living next door to a private home with children No [restrictions]— Statutory buffer zones generally do not cover private residential properties.”

The response also mentioned that some theoretical restrictions could literally make it impossible for someone to find any reasonable place to live, and therefore cannot be imposed.
Not being able to live among the rest of us at all doesn’t seem like such a bad idea to me personally, but ….




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https://www.wkar.org/2011-01-1...guilty-of-sex-crimes

“Under Michigan's Criminal Sexual Conduct in the First Degree with a "Relationship" component, this applies when the victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years of age and any of the following circumstances exist: the actor is a member of the same household as the victim, the actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the fourth degree, the actor is in a position of authority over the victim and used his or her authority to coerce the victim to submit, the actor is a teacher or administrator of a school where the victim is enrolled, or the actor is an employee or contractual service provider of the victim's school.

In essence, the "Relationship" designation refers to cases involving sexual penetration where the perpetrator held a position of trust, authority, or familial connection to a minor victim aged 13-15 — situations where the victim's age, combined with the nature of the relationship, made them especially vulnerable.

The minimum confinement shown on the registry is 15-30 years, which reflects the severity Michigan law assigns to first-degree criminal sexual conduct charges.”

Above is from Claude who looked at the register information by screenshot.

The other conviction is a different statute due to victim age. It is equally reprehensible. Based on the news story it appears that the acts were repeated at least four times and that the victim aged so that the different laws were applied.

Please refrain from visiting the person and making any verbal statements suggesting that you are aware of his situation, you have a relative minor female and he better not interact with the relative. Uttering a threat is not good.


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We had one living directly in front of the elementary school bus stop. Both my kids knew him only as “The bad man” and no child ever stood at that bus stop without at least one parent present. Other than that, nothing else we could do.
 
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As a PSA to the other families in the neighborhood, can you place a ‘Warning’ sign in one your windows facing the street -

“Warning: A repeat and convicted sex offender lives at ‘street nbr and street name’!”

All the other neighbors can do it too.

TFB if the owner of that home doesn’t like it.


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“He has SIX convictions for child sexual abuse.”

I am astounded that he is out of jail. That sounds like a habitual offender to me. My advice is to seek legal opinion (criminal practice attorney) about rights AND discuss with your local law enforcement agency.

I have zero tolerance towards child sex abusers!


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Make it perfectly clear what will happen to the POS if tries anything.
 
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As a PSA to the other families in the neighborhood, can you place a ‘Warning’ sign in one your windows facing the street -

“Warning: A repeat and convicted sex offender lives at ‘street nbr and street name’!”

All the other neighbors can do it too.

TFB if the owner of that home doesn’t like it.
Don't post any signs without consulting an Attorney.
 
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Don't post any signs without consulting an Attorney.

Yeah, this is real life, not Law & Order: SVU.


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Make it perfectly clear what will happen to the POS if tries anything.
I wouldn't engage him at all. Just ensure all your neighbors know about him.


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Originally posted by tleddy:
“He has SIX convictions for child sexual abuse.”

I am astounded that he is out of jail. That sounds like a habitual offender to me. My advice is to seek legal opinion (criminal practice attorney) about rights AND discuss with your local law enforcement agency.

I have zero tolerance towards child sex abusers!

Be aware that it is one conviction date on six charges.

When asking for help from authorities or an HOA, it is important to be accurate in you claims.

As already stated above, registered sex offenders are usually restricted from places...like schools or playgrounds as opposed to living in a neighborhood where children live. You might be able to see his conditions of his parole (24months). Looks like he served 15 years for his conviction...2011-2026

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Every household in your HOA should have this:
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https://www.wkar.org/2011-01-1...guilty-of-sex-crimes

“Under Michigan's Criminal Sexual Conduct in the First Degree with a "Relationship" component, this applies when the victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years of age and any of the following circumstances exist: the actor is a member of the same household as the victim, the actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the fourth degree, the actor is in a position of authority over the victim and used his or her authority to coerce the victim to submit, the actor is a teacher or administrator of a school where the victim is enrolled, or the actor is an employee or contractual service provider of the victim's school.

In essence, the "Relationship" designation refers to cases involving sexual penetration where the perpetrator held a position of trust, authority, or familial connection to a minor victim aged 13-15 — situations where the victim's age, combined with the nature of the relationship, made them especially vulnerable.

The minimum confinement shown on the registry is 15-30 years, which reflects the severity Michigan law assigns to first-degree criminal sexual conduct charges.”

Above is from Claude who looked at the register information by screenshot.

The other conviction is a different statute due to victim age. It is equally reprehensible. Based on the news story it appears that the acts were repeated at least four times and that the victim aged so that the different laws were applied.

Please refrain from visiting the person and making any verbal statements suggesting that you are aware of his situation, you have a relative minor female and he better not interact with the relative. Uttering a threat is not good.


In digging further the “relationship” was that he was her teacher and penetrated her several times over a two year period.

I will not have any contact with him of any sort unless he steps foot on my granddaughters property. We are looking into getting trespass charges filed against him so that if he even takes one step on the property he will be arrested. The other neighbors all around us will be looking into doing the same thing so he will be boxed in to his yard.


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