https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...arry-firearms-public

Hawaii's Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that the state doesn't have to adhere to a constitutional right to carry firearms in public, deviating from a 2022 US Supreme Court decision affirming such a right.

"Article I, section 17 of the Hawaii Constitution mirrors the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution," the Supreme Court of Hawaii wrote. However, "we read those words differently than the current United States Supreme Court. We hold that in Hawaii there is no state constitutional right to carry a firearm in public."

In doing so, the justices reversed a circuit court decision siding with a gun owner who was charged with a felony for violating three Hawaiian gun laws. The lower court had dismissed the charges, citing the 2022 "New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen" in which the US Supreme Court ruled for the first time that an individual's right to carry a handgun in public for self-defense is covered under the 2nd Amendment.

In December, Christopher Wilson was charged with a felony for violating three gun laws in Hawaii. Two of these laws restrict the possession of firearms and ammunition to the owner’s residence or business. A third law, HRS Section 134-9, authorizes the chief of police in each county to issue licenses for carrying firearms.

Mr. Wilson’s legal team moved to have the charges dismissed, arguing that prosecuting him for possessing a firearm for self-defense purposes outside his home violated his right to bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article 1, Section 17 of the Hawaii Constitution.

In August 2022, a circuit court judge granted Mr. Wilson’s motion to dismiss the charges. It agreed that regulations restricting firearms to Mr. Wilson’s business or residence violated his right to keep and bear arms. -Epoch Times

In its ruling, the Hawaiian Supreme Court claimed that the Bruen decision "snubs federalism principles."

The Hawaii Supreme Court held that while Wilson has standing to challenge the two laws restricting firearms, they wrote "we reject Wilson’s constitutional challenges."

"Hawaii’s historical tradition of firearm regulation rule out an individual right to keep and bear arms under the Hawaii Constitution ... The spirit of Aloha clashes with a federally-mandated lifestyle that lets citizens walk around with deadly weapons during day-to-day activities."

As the Epoch Times further notes:

‘Anti-Gun’ Court
The Hawaii Supreme Court’s decision was criticized by Kostas Moros, an attorney with Michel and Associates representing the California Rifle & Pistol Association.

“I hope the poor guy dealing with all this nonsense files a cert petition. What a preposterous ruling by a bench of antigun activists,” he said in a Feb. 8 post on X (formerly Twitter). A cert petition seeks to have a higher court review the decision of a lower court.

“At the time this man was charged, no one had ever gotten a CCW (concealed carry weapons) permit in Hawaii. It’s completely abdication of the judicial role to ignore this, unless the petitioner never brought it up, which I find unlikely.”

Mr. Moros also criticized the Hawaii Supreme Court’s statement in its opinion that it makes “no sense for contemporary society to pledge allegiance to the founding era’s culture, realities, laws, and understanding of the Constitution.”

“Sounds like the Hawaii Supreme Court doesn’t even want to be a part of the United States, in this rejection of not just the Second Amendment but their culture and understanding of the Constitution,” he said.

In June last year, Gov. Josh Green, a Democrat, signed bill SB1230 into law that prohibits carrying guns at many places, including beaches, nursing homes, hospitals, restaurants serving alcohol, movie theaters, stadiums, courthouses, and public parks.

At the time, Mr. Green justified the bill by stating it would prevent injuries and deaths. “We’re taking action on gun violence ... because most important to us as a family is to keep our keiki safe, and those that we love safe,” he said. In Hawaii, “keiki” refers to children.

The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action criticized the bill, stating it “massively expands ‘gun-free zones’ where law-abiding citizens are left defenseless and also prohibits carrying firearms on private property unless the owner gives affirmative permission.” The bill also requires people carrying firearms to other places to have insurance coverage.

A lawsuit has been filed against the bill that is scheduled for a hearing in San Francisco in April, according to attorney Alan Beck, who is litigating the case. A fundraiser has been created to cover the expenses of the lawsuit, which has received close to $8,000 in donations out of the targeted $20,000.

In a Jan. 8 Facebook post, Mr. Beck said that the lawsuit would be heard by judges who will “at least be open to the Second Amendment arguments. That is good news for Hawaii gun owners.”

It's not just Hawaii but also states of Illinois, Washington, Colorado, New York, Massachusetts, a few others and the 9th, 7th,3rd, and 2nd US Circuit Courts of Appeals.

Cool. States get to pick and choose which parts of the U.S. Constitution they are bound to adhere to.

This should work out well...States on the record to deny Constitutional Rights upheld by the US Supreme Court! I believe the proper term is 'Settled Law'!

It's not like the regime in DC is going to use federalized NG troops to enforce something a SCOTUS decision. This really is a flaw in our Const. that the SCOTUS has no enforcement mechanism beyond the political will of the current regime.

Sets a precedent for ignoring the Supreme Court- smooth move, Hawaii. Classy.

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Originally posted by Appliance Brad:
Cool. States get to pick and choose which parts of the U.S. Constitution they are bound to adhere to.

IMO it's a "Constitutional Cafeteria" where they get to choose whatever they want to from the Constitutional Cafeteria Menu. Don't like it, don't take it.
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File a section 1983 civil rights case in USDC
against Hawaii and seek attorney fees.

Side note- as much as I have grown to despise WA state, we DO still have legal “Open Carry” and “Shall Issue” Concealed licenses (for now at least…)


As tot he Hawaii issue, if the “State” can choose to ignore the “Supreme Law of the Land”, can that set a precedent for the citizenry to ignore local laws?

What I want to do to these tyrants/dictators are not suitable for the printed words.

So Thomas Magnum would be arrested and his 1911 confiscated? What's a P.I. to do?

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Originally posted by 12131:
What I want to do to these tyrants/dictators are not suitable for the printed words.

I do believe that is covered under the 1st, run it by us for those that forget and "screw their feelings"

Glad I live in Texas.

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Originally posted by blueye:
Glad I live in Texas.

Wish I lived in Texas, The other border is also being invaded, but we are already captured.

Does Hawaii have a CRPA or, any other org to fight for local gun rights?

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The spirit of Aloha

Does the spirt of Aloha include robbery, rape and murder? Then I guess it isn't working and you shouldn't be able to make a legal decision "based" on it.

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Originally posted by 911Boss:
Side note- as much as I have grown to despise WA state, we DO still have legal “Open Carry” and “Shall Issue” Concealed licenses (for now at least…)

And it's still pretty dang easy to get a CPL, at least for now. Last time I renewed I did it online even.

With this ruling, I'm greeting everyone at the range with an Aloha

Pennsylvania has gotten into this now and has criticized the USSC for its gun rulings.

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