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Recently got a puppy, It’s about four months right now—Goldendoodle. For multiple reasons, fencing around the house is not practical. Looking at wireless fencing options. Does anyone have a positive/negative experience with these or one they recommend? Any other suggestions? Thanks! Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | ||
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I had one many years ago covering a pretty large piece of property. It worked! Took a little while to train the dogs to understand it, but once they did, it was worth the cost. This was in the mid 1990's so I assume technology is even better now. ETA: Somehow I missed the "wireless" part. I had the buried wire style.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 6guns, | |||
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This is going to be anecdotal because I've never used one myself, but we have a deputy here in a very large development who has a wireless fence in the front yard. Two big dogs, large community, main road. His pups are out quite a bit during the day and since I walk here a lot I see them. They bark and posture up but respect the boundaries of their invisible fencing. Lots of people walk past the home, vehicle traffice, you name it. They bark, walk back & forth, alert on everything but haven't left the yard in the 4 years we've been here. <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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Bookers Bourbon and a good cigar |
An aggressive dog crosses your fence, chases your dog over the fence line. Your dog outruns the other dog. Now your dog can't come back to the yard. Just a thought If you're goin' through hell, keep on going. Don't slow down. If you're scared don't show it. You might get out before the devil even knows you're there. NRA ENDOWMENT LIFE MEMBER | |||
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I've heard about GPS dog fencing. I wonder if those turn off if the dog gets out until they come back in. | |||
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Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
Valid, but I will be selling the house in less than a year. I don’t wanna spend $5000+ for fencing because of that. Is mostly for letting the dog out to potty, keeping eyes on him. I would consider buried wire as well though. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
2nd hand experience from 2 friends. One for sure was the buried wire system, and the 2nd one I'm not certain whether wired or wireless (it doesn't change my reason for posting though). College buddy with a senior dog. In it's younger years, the dog was a runner and if it found an opportunity would go on adventures. He moved from a house with a fenced backyard to one without a fence so he installed the buried wire system. Seemed to do the job for a year, but eventually my buddy would find his dog laying directly above the electric fence wire getting shocked. My buddy watched and when let outdoors the dog would go straight for the buried wire and lay down. He unplugged it and it turned out the dog was no longer ambitious enough to run off. A good friend lives in a development where everybody has 1 to 3 acre lots. Cate-corner neighbor had 2 large dogs and only had the wired/wireless "fence." Neighbor's college age son would routinely unplug the wireless fence to hook up an obnoxious stereo, drink while listening to loud music, the dogs weren't friendly at all when they roamed free in the neighborhood, and the father would blow off the neighbor's concerns about the large dogs. One day my buddy let his senior sheltie (i.e. ~25 lb dog) out into the the backyard to use the restroom, my buddy went back inside briefly, heard a commotion outdoors, and when he went into the backyard the 2 neighbor dogs ran off. My buddy's senior dog was lying in his backyard bleeding head to toe including his throat. My buddy's dog had multiple vet trips, dozens of stitches, antibiotics, etc. but it ended up dying 2 weeks later. Cate-corner neighbor took zero responsibility for vet bills, cremation, etc. nor did he ever install a real fence. Animal control took a report but that was all they did. A few months later my buddy's toddler age grandchildren were playing in his yard, the 2 large dogs entered my buddy's yard running full speed straight at the grand children, and both dogs suffered fatal gunshot wounds. I guess the moral of the story is the wired/wireless system is useless without power (e.g. household member unplugs it, power outage, breaker trips, etc), and potentially a liability if the dog is aggressive. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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https://www.chewy.com/petsafe-...ct-wireless/dp/51926 We have had the Petsafe stay and play for our 7 year old lab since she was a puppy. It has been really good for her and it didn’t take her long to learn. She ignored the beeps and rode the lightning one good time and has been good since. The base unit inside the house puts out a round perimeter around the yard that can be adjusted or as we did added another base unit on the opposite side of the house to expand the area. The one downside that we have experienced is the base units did go down around year 3 or 4 and she went on an adventure but didn’t get too far before we figured out what was wrong. If they go down again I plan on replacing with a gps collar. | |||
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We have an Invisible Fence with a buried wire with zero complaints. One of our dogs is a stud, and 2 of his female friends live right next door with an invisible fence of their own. Even when they go into heat, our stud will respect the fence even as he sits there and whines all day. | |||
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We have had Invisible Fence for ten years and have not had a problem with our two dogs (labradors). When we take them out of the yard for walks we make sure to exit and re-enter at just one location. | |||
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We have a Dogwatch system, which is wired to one full acre. My two Working Line Shepherds respect it to a point. 1. A Local dog walker let one of the dogs he was walking go into our lawn and piss, my female Shepherd had a problem with that. He called the ACO, I had Ring camera footage so It ended well for me. 2. My male has gone through twice chasing deer in the backyard. He stops, but I have to take his collar off so he doesn't get nailed again when I Bring him back into the yard. 3. Both dogs have a 4-prong collar- stronger shock, they are generally very good and we keep and eye on them. I recommend this system, it's 19 years old and has never malfunctioned. | |||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Selling in less than a year I would not even bother. Just take the pup out. Work on it staying close, no leash good recall. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Jack of All Trades, Master of Nothing |
Years ago when I was volunteering with Akita Rescue there as an incident in Colorado Springs. An owner had 2 large Akitas and depended on an invisible fence option to keep them in the yard. Neighbor across the street had a small dog that they let run free that knew the limits of the fence keeping the Akitas in. It would taunt the Akitas shitting in pissing in their yard right outside the limits of the fence. One day the Akitas had enough and ran through the fence, it did not end well for the small dog. Invisible fences have their place, but I wouldn't rely solely on one to contain a dog. My daughter can deflate your daughter's soccer ball. | |||
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In Odin we trust |
We've used the Petsafe wireless fence for close to 7 years now to contain 2 pibbles and a GSD. Overall I have absolutely zero complaints. The fence gives a 1/4 mile radius for them to run in, and the collars that go with it provide first audible, then buzzing, and then finally shocks. If the dog breaks the barrier they get 30 seconds of continuous fun (or until the pup runs out of range of the base station). It's been so effective with the pibbles neither one of them even needs to wear the collar anymore. The WILL NOT cross the boundary. We have to load them up in a vehicle to take them on walks LOL. The GSD is a different story. He's smart, eerily so, and tests the boundary and his collar constantly. He's figured out that when he breaks the boundary he has about 10-seconds to get back to his side before the shocks commence. So you gotta make sure the battery in the collar doesn't go dead. In my experience they last about 6-weeks before needing replacement (for the GSD). For the pibbles a battery will last close to 3 months because they just.....don't. And even the GSD doesn't go out past the barrier unless there's a UPS guy.....he hates UPS trucks for some reason. Fedex trucks seem ok, maybe it's the brown? But overall we're quite pleased with it, and if a fence isn't an option this is a good alternative. We live outside of Fairbanks in a small culdesac neighborhood in North Pole, AK for reference. It is not affected by weather, cold, rain, etc. We've had to replace 2-3 collars over the years that stopped working, so inspect/test them every so often. I usually walk the perimeter of the yard each spring to make sure the collars are still chirping and buzzing, and replace as needed. Good luck!! _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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In Odin we trust |
This is something else to consider chongo. They work well to generally contain YOUR dogs, but do nothing for other dogs. We've had a few dogs wander into OUR yard over the years and it has never ended well. _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
The buried wire system we have from Invisible Fence Brand makes a distinction between coming and going. I don't know how but it does. Also ours is set to continue shocking or 10 seconds on exit but stops when returning inside the wire. Worked great with two Rhodesian Ridgebacks. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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My only experince with one was an elderly Jack Russell rescue. Some old dude had passed away and they sent his dog, named Hank, off. He was 8 when we got him. Hank didn't like to stay in the back yard so we got the invisible fence which we put around the 6 foot high cedar fence. For a long time, we couldn't figure out how Hank was getting out...then the neighbor spotted him. Neighbor noted that Hank had jumped the 6' space from the deck to the 4 x 4 cedar fence post. He must have been getting quite a hit as by then I'd turned the thing up past "Stun a German Shepard" to "11+". Hank didn't care, after a pause (which must have been to regulate the shock), he jumped right off the post to the stunned neighbors amazement, who was expecing an injury to the dog from that height. However, Doodles are both smarter and more socially adapted to folks than Jack Russells like Hank. Should be a good thing for you. Just walk him to the edge like they say and tell him not to pass. Put the flags in, should be gtg. | |||
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When my Boxer was a pup I walked her the perimeter of the front yard for a few weeks. For 15 years she never set foot in the street. She didn't like the fenced in back yard. She liked to lay in the front yard and watch the world go by. All the neighbors loved her. | |||
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I've been using an Extreme brand unit for about 8 years and have about two acres fenced in. The unit and collar are great but a couple of things can and have happened that you have to watch for. I did not bury the wire but attached it to my field fence about four inches above the ground on insulators. My driveway is 300 feet long and off the road so I put wire under the driveway. My lab when she was younger crossed it, got zapped, and wouldn't come back into the yard so I had to go out, remove the collar and bring her in. She never did it again and hasn't worn the collar now in several years. My pit/lab mix won't go out of the driveway but has gone under the fence a few times zapped or not chasing a coyote and squirrels and again I had to remove the collar and bring her in. She's my stubborn dog and wears the collar always. The unit is set to beep about three feet from the fence and at the one foot point will zap. I've held it and zapped myself to see what the dog feels and I would more than likely stay in the yard but my dogs don't think like I do. | |||
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One biggie mentioned is the training, flags, a leash & the rest. There are videos on utube. I have a wire around 5 acres, only buried where I mow, inside an old hose under the driveway. I’m on my 4th dog trained to stay inside, works great. The breed matters a little, some easier to contain. There are various collars with most, I have one now labeled ‘stubborn dog’. It’s not that I need it, but it gives good tone well before stimulation activation. The reviews on those distance fences seem questionable. That is, where the dog gets shocked if to far from the base unit, and anywhere beyond. Yes, very easy to put in, also easy to confuse the dog. You can put in the wired fence yourself, easy. | |||
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