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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
just remember that the definitions of liberal and conservatives when applied to Canadian politicians have zero resemblance to liberal and conservatives here in the US.

There does appear to be one similarity between Canadian and American government in that both countries are run by a uni-party. The parties may have different names but there is virtually no light between how they operate and what their goals are.

Hat tip to the GiveSendGo CEO for giving Trudeau and his leftist filth in government a big middle finger salute and allowing donations to flow.

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The powers-that-be in Canada are beginning to panic I think:

BREAKING: Dictator Doug enacts a state of emergency, allowing for the arrest and imprisonment of Canadian protesters for up to 1 year in jail. He adds that dissidents can be fined $100,000 too.

New Zealand took a hard line approach and as a result some truly awful footage resulted. It doesn’t seem to be doing anything but bringing more people to the side that would dare to be so bold to proclaim they want their freedom back.

The longer it goes the more it hurts Trudeau. He must be waiting for an excuse to point the finger and justify a heavy handed reaction but that carries a heavy risk.

It’s kinda hard to control the narrative when there are millions of cameras everywhere and the ability to show the world their actions in real time.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
New Zealand took a hard line approach and as a result some truly awful footage resulted. It doesn’t seem to be doing anything but brining more people to the side that would dare to be so bold as to want their freedom back.

Funny how terrorism ultimately works against the perpetrators.

So unpredictable J. Castreaux … not.

Canada is going to go full on socialist, I don’t see a good outcome up there, I can see Trudeau going full on dictator and using lethal force to restore order and locking down like Australia and NZ.

POLL: Do you support the truckers' Freedom Convoy 2022 protest in Ottawa?

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Originally posted by spunk639:
Canada is going to go full on socialist, I don’t see a good outcome up there, I can see Trudeau going full on dictator and using lethal force to restore order and locking down like Australia and NZ.

Castreaux cannot protect his ass to the … errr … I mean the southern flank of a 100+ mm mothertrucker supporters.

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Originally posted by spunk639:
Canada is going to go full on socialist, I don’t see a good outcome up there, I can see Trudeau going full on dictator and using lethal force to restore order and locking down like Australia and NZ.

That would be a massive mistake on his part. A large percentage of the population agrees with thew truckers while not necessarily agreeing to their tactics.

Attempts to paint them as fascists and violent failed. They quietly were forced to return all the fuel taken...something the mainstream media ignored.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Originally posted by spunk639:
Canada is going to go full on socialist, I don’t see a good outcome up there, I can see Trudeau going full on dictator and using lethal force to restore order and locking down like Australia and NZ.

That would be a massive mistake on his part. A large percentage of the population agrees with thew truckers while not necessarily agreeing to their tactics.

Attempts to paint them as fascists and violent failed. They quietly were forced to return all the fuel taken...something the mainstream media ignored.

I agree with this. Had Trudeau and his cast of clowns hammered the truckers very early on in the protest, before most media could get on the ground there, they could have managed the fallout by painting the protestors any way they liked. Now everyone worldwide is watching and the protestors have garnered massive support because of their message and lack of any violence or extremism. If he uses extreme force now, Canada is done on the world stage, and these losers in government know it.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Originally posted by spunk639:
Canada is going to go full on socialist, I don’t see a good outcome up there, I can see Trudeau going full on dictator and using lethal force to restore order and locking down like Australia and NZ.

That would be a massive mistake on his part. A large percentage of the population agrees with thew truckers while not necessarily agreeing to their tactics.

Attempts to paint them as fascists and violent failed. They quietly were forced to return all the fuel taken...something the mainstream media ignored.

I agree with this. Had Trudeau and his cast of clowns hammered the truckers very early on in the protest, before most media could get on the ground there, they could have managed the fallout by painting the protestors any way they liked. Now everyone worldwide is watching and the protestors have garnered massive support because of their message and lack of any violence or extremism. If he uses extreme force now, Canada is done on the world stage, and these losers in government know it.

In a rational world I’d agree, but this tin hat dictator, and that’s what he is, has a track record of doubling down on stupid and doesn’t want to be defied. I’m more afraid of an overreaction by a chicken shit socialist than a guy like Putin.

Confiscate the guns. Brutalize the people. New Zealand, Australia, Venezuela and Canada.

An Officer in the Canadian Army with over 20 years in service to his country speaks out..
Well worth a listen..


https://youtu.be/4a8ZRipbeRo

Justin Trudeau says 'everything is on the table' to crack down on Freedom Convoy and promises 'quick action' after call with Biden: Judge orders protesters to clear blockade at crucial Ambassador Bridge by 7pm TONIGHT



Biden and Trudeau spoke directly on Friday regarding the Freedom Convoy blockades at the border



'President Biden and I both agreed that...these blockades cannot continue,' said Trudeau


White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said that Trudeau had promised 'quick action'


Police are now reportedly massing in huge numbers in Windsor, Ontario by Ambassador Bridge


Trudeau said that the use of military force was a last resort but that 'everything is on the table'


On Friday protesters claimed to be opening a lane of the bridge but police said this was false


Conservative Ontario Premier Doug Ford on Friday declared a state of emergency, threatening fines and jail

US group 'Convoy to Save America' is launching convoys from Nashville and New York City this weekend



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-Freedom-Convoy.html



On Friday night, several convoys were gathering in U.S. cities, ahead of a planned journey to the Canadian border in support of their fellow truckers. Fears are high that some may try to disrupt Sunday's Super Bowl, or Biden's March 1 State of the Union address.

Windsor police said in a statement that anyone blocking the streets at or near the Ambassador Bridge faced arrest, vehicle seizure and forfeiture, and 'denial in crossing the USA border.'

'President Biden and I both agreed that for the security of people and the economy, these blockades cannot continue,' Trudeau said at a press briefing on Friday.

'Make no mistake, the border cannot and will not remain closed.



Earlier on Friday, Conservative Ontario Premier Doug Ford declared a 42-hour state of emergency, threatening vehicle seizures, fines of C$100,000 ($79,000), jail time of up to a year, and suspension of commercial licenses to punish protesters who do not comply with orders to disperse.



'This is a pivotal moment for our nation. The eyes of the world upon us right now, and what they are seeing is not who we are, this is not what Canada is about,' said Ford at a briefing. 'As a province, as a nation, we must collectively draw a line.'

'We cannot have people occupying cities, holding them hostage, holding millions and millions of people hostage,' he said. 'To the occupiers: please, go home.'

Ford said he will convene the provincial cabinet on Saturday to urgently enact measures that make it 'crystal clear' it is illegal to block critical infrastructure.

A variety of U.S. groups are organizing on social media platforms such as Telegram, TikTok and Facebook, aiming to tap into frustration that appears to be growing among Americans over COVID-19 mandates. In some cases, logistics for possible large convoys across the nation are part of those discussions.

One of the efforts, dubbed 'The People's Convoy,' which has 64,000 followers on Facebook, is planning a rally in Coachella Valley in Indio, California, on March 4. Truck drivers will then convoy from California and other parts of the country to Washington, D.C., to show their disapproval over mandates.

'It's happening whether you like it or not, it's going to happen,' Brian Brase, one of the group's organizers, said in a TikTok post. 'It's not a right issue. It's not a left issue. It's not an anti-vax thing. It's about the constitution and our rights as Americans.' Brase could not be reached immediately for further comments.



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Just a random video I quickly googled. I don't normally follow Canadian news, but I don't remember them declaring a state of emergency or calling the BLM rioters separatists, occupiers, insurgents, terrorists, or any of the other lies hurled at the actual peaceful protesters.

https://youtu.be/gifDHJ3wsIg

It’s 38 deg F, headed down to 31 F, with wind and rainy wintry mix for next several hours in Ottawa, CA.

Pretty much the most uncomfortable weather for being outside.

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Originally posted by spunk639:
In a rational world I’d agree, but this tin hat dictator, and that’s what he is, has a track record of doubling down on stupid and doesn’t want to be defied. I’m more afraid of an overreaction by a chicken shit socialist than a guy like Putin.

100% agree. Putin plays three dimensional chess while Trudeau, well he plays with himself.

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Originally posted by smlsig:
An Officer in the Canadian Army with over 20 years in service to his country speaks out..
Well worth a listen..


https://youtu.be/4a8ZRipbeRo

If anyone wonders if this is authentic: It appears to be.



Military investigating after officer appears in anti-vaccine video

Maj. Stephen Chledowski is the latest serving member of the Canadian military to have spoken out against government-ordered mandates and restrictions intended to curb the spread and severity of COVID-19.

https://www.thestar.com/politi...i-vaccine-video.html

OTTAWA - The Canadian Armed Forces says it is investigating after one of its officers appeared in a video speaking out against vaccine mandates and calling for other military members to stand up against government-imposed pandemic restrictions.

Yet while officials say Armed Forces members who discredit the Canadian military will be held accountable, it remains unclear just how far the military is willing to go in dealing with such incidents.

Maj. Stephen Chledowski is the latest serving member of the Canadian Armed Forces to have spoken out against vaccine mandates and COVID-19 restrictions by appearing in a video while wearing his military uniform.

In the video, which was uploaded to the internet on Thursday and is now circulating on social media platforms, Chledowski decries what he describes as government “bullying tactics of fear, intimidation, coercion and financial and physical violence.”

The artillery officer based at Canadian Forces Base Gagetown in New Brunswick goes on to rail against vaccines before calling on other military and police officers “to now stand up and protect your loved ones against this government-forced medical tyranny.”

Chledowski declined to comment in an email, saying he had been ordered not to do interviews.

The Canadian Armed Forces says it is investigating after one of its officers appeared in a video speaking out against vaccine mandates.

Defence Department spokesman Daniel Le Bouthillier confirmed Chledowski is a member of the Canadian military, and that officials are now investigating “and will take appropriate action.”

“A hallmark of our democracy is the principle that the military is accountable to our duly elected officials,” Le Bouthillier said in an emailed statement.

“Those who disregard these principles undermine the very foundation of our institution. … Any member of the Armed Forces who brings discredit to the CAF through either conduct or performance deficiencies, be it through actions or words, will be held accountable.”

The military last week announced it was investigating a member of the Royal Canadian Air Force who appeared in a separate video voicing support for the anti-vaccine protest that has clogged downtown Ottawa for two weeks.

Le Bouthillier said Friday that Aviator Riley MacPherson of 19 Wing Comox in British Columbia is now facing a summary trial, which is typically used for minor service offences.

Retired lieutenant-colonel Rory Fowler, who is now a lawyer specializing in military cases in Kingston, Ont., argued Chledowski’s actions are much more serious given his rank and the nature of comments.

While the Constitution recognizes the right to free speech, Fowler said, “the right of (Armed Forces) personnel to make certain statements while, quite literally, in uniform is limited.

“People such as Maj. Chledowski can seek to test such limits if they wish,” he added. “But they will face the consequences if they are wrong in their estimation of the limits on free speech.”

Retired colonel and fellow lawyer Michel Drapeau said such public comments by Armed Forces members potentially violate various military rules and regulations when it comes to loyalty and discipline.

“Any such serious breaches to the ethos of the military profession and the Code of Service Discipline by anyone, let alone a senior officer, who additionally made such statements while in uniform, is a matter that is likely to attract serious discipline,” Drapeau said.

Military police last year charged another officer with trying to persuade another person to join in a mutiny and behaving in a scandalous manner unbecoming of an officer after allegedly urging other Armed Forces members not to help distribute COVID-19 vaccines.

The charges against Officer Cadet Ladislas Kenderesi followed a speech at an anti-lockdown rally in Toronto in December 2020 in which a man appeared in full military uniform and spoke out against what he called “killer” vaccines.

Defence officials said at the time that Kenderesi was the first service member charged with a mutiny-related offence in at least 20 years. A court martial is scheduled for September.

Retired lieutenant-general Guy Thibault, who previously served as vice-chief of the defence staff, said it was disappointing to see some Armed Forces members using their service in uniform for such purposes, and that the military should come down hard on them.

“They should be dealt with quickly and firmly (and publicly) and severely sanctioned,” said Thibault, who is now chair of the Conference of Defence Associations Institute.

“Unless there are mitigating circumstances revealed in an investigation or summary trial or court martial, I would think that they should be released dishonourably and unsuitable for further service.”

And while Fowler suggested there may be some concern about public courts martial becoming a political lightning rod or a platform for Armed Forces members opposed to vaccines, “that is part of the cost of a public and fair system of justice.”

“(Chledowski) in effect used his uniform as part of that public platform. If he is going to be disciplined for doing so, that, too, should be via a public platform: the Code of Service Discipline.”

The most recent video comes as the military is preparing to cut potentially hundreds of troops who have refused to bare their arms and get vaccinated.

Fowler said military personnel can still be charged for actions taken while in uniform even after they have left the Armed Forces.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Feb. 11, 2022.

I heard that man’s plea for freedom. He is a true patriot.