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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
Dude(s), please don't cherry pick my post to make it look like I'm on board with mass terror. The comment, in it's context, was in regard to Somali people who are just the opposite of Mr. Mahad Abdiaziz Abdirahaman.

Believe me when I say I understand they're not all to blame, H&K-Guy. As the overall situation deteriorates in direct proportion to the number of immigrants crowded into one small space, though, there ultimately will be some push-back.


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Surprise! It was ISIS.

Despite the guy explicitly telling authorities, they still don't list a motive in the charging documents. They must have received extensive training from the FBI in detecting motives.

Terrorist: I did this to glorify Mohammed and take the jihad to the impure.
FBI/Police: No you didn't.
Terrorist: Yes, I did. I know why I was trying to kill people - I watched ISIS videos and wanted to join the jihad!
FBI/Police: No you didn't.
Terrorist: What is this, I'm telling you why I did it!
FBI/Police: We don't believe you, we think you just trying to rob people, so that's what we're going with.
Terrorist: !

http://www.startribune.com/man...pired-him/471639884/

Man who stabbed 2 at Mall of America tells court ISIS inspired him

The 20-year-old Minneapolis man who slashed two brothers inside Macy's at the Mall of America last fall declared that he was answering "the call for Jihad" on behalf of ISIS when he pleaded guilty.

Mahad A. Abdiraham, 20, admitted last week in Hennepin County District Court to two counts of felony first-degree assault.

The charges stem from his stabbing of 19-year-old Alexander Sanchez and 25-year-old John Sanchez, both of Minneapolis. The younger brother suffered injuries to his head that will leave scars and cuts to his arms that went "to the bone," and he needed a blood transfusion, according to charges. His brother needed dozens of stitches to close his wounds, the court filing said.

The charging document did not describe a motive but suggested Abdiraham has had psychological difficulties. Last year, he was arrested on suspicion of stabbing two staff members with a pen at an inpatient psychiatric unit.

During his guilty plea, however, Abdiraham read a statement that explained devotion to ISIS was his inspiration.

"I went to Mall of America to answer the call for Jihad by the Chief of the Believers, Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi — may Allah protect him — and by the Mujahiden of the Islamic State [ISIS]. ... I am here reaffirming that it was indeed an act of Jihad in the way of Allah."

Abdiraham then issued this warning: "I want the reason for my attack to be clear to this court and to the public, so that you may understand that you will never be safe as long as your country is at war with Islam. And that the threat of death [or] imprisonment will never deter us from fighting for the sake of Allah."

This is the second case to surface in the past week in Twin Cities courts of local violence influenced by international events. On Jan. 17, a 19-year-old former student at St. Catherine University allegedly set eight small fires in seven buildings across the St. Paul campus in retaliation for U.S. military intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to charges filed in Ramsey County District Court.

The prospect of November's stabbings at Macy's and the fires at St. Catherine's being motivated by global terrorism raises the possibility of the defendants being prosecuted in federal court.

Jeffrey Van Nest, spokesman for the FBI in the Twin Cities, said Monday that "we are aware of both of those cases and the reporting that is out there. But at this time, we're not in a position to provide additional details."

Another attack in Minnesota said to be motivated by international terrorism occurred in September 2016 at Crossroads Center in St. Cloud, where 22-year-old Dahir A. Adan stabbed 10 people before an off-duty police officer fatally shot him inside Macy's.

The FBI quickly categorized those stabbings as an act of terrorism, and a news agency speaking for ISIS took credit for the bloodshed.

'A terrorist attack'

Cindy Leon, an aunt of the brothers stabbed at the Mall of America, told the Star Tribune that "this evil human being was trying to kill Alex and John because of his stupid beliefs. I want the world to know the truth. ... Everyone needs to know this was a terrorist attack."

Leon said the brothers have been unable to go back to work in the family's roofing business and have long recoveries ahead.

Alex Sanchez "can't move one side of his face" and is undergoing physical and psychological therapy, she said. John Sanchez has limited use of a thumb and lingering pain in his back after needing dozens of stitches, she added.

Leon was in the courtroom during Abdiraham's statement, and said to him once he was within earshot, " 'Don't you feel something?' And he just laughed."

Alexander Sanchez had come to Macy's with other family members on Nov. 12 and exited the dressing room to show them a pair of pants. He returned to the dressing room as Abdiraham was standing nearby.

After Alexander Sanchez tried to push past Abdiraham upon exiting the room, Abdiraham started slashing him with a knife with an 8-inch blade.

John Sanchez and another family member stepped in. The older brother grabbed at the knife and was cut on his hands and back while eventually subduing Abdiraham with the help of others.

Suspected terror act at St. Kate's

In the arson incidents at St. Catherine, suspect Tnuza J. Hassan, of Minneapolis, told police that "she wanted the school to burn to the ground and that her intent was to hurt people," according to the complaint charging her with first-degree arson.

Hassan said similar attacks happened on "Muslim land," and no one cared whether Muslims were hurt, the criminal complaint continued. She also allegedly told police and fire investigators, "You guys are lucky that I don't know how to build a bomb because I would have done that."

Hassan allegedly told police that she had written a letter to her roommates containing "radical ideas about supporting Muslims and bringing back the caliphate," the complaint said.

Books, a chair, toilet paper and sanitary napkins were among the objects set on fire, said St. Paul Assistant Fire Chief Mike Gaede and a university spokeswoman. No injuries were reported.

Hassan remains jailed in lieu of $100,000 bail. Her next court appearance is scheduled for Feb. 28.

With the Mall of America defendant's guilty plea behind him, Abdiraham awaits sentencing on Feb. 16. The plea deal calls for him to serve a total of 15½ years for both counts. With credit for time in jail since the attack, Abdiraham would spend the first 10¼ years in state prison and the balance on supervised release.



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Why am I not reading that the cops said "The suspect refused to comply when told multiple times to drop the knife and was advancing menacingly...deadly force was used to stop the suspect."
Because the responding cops are honest folks doing a tough job honorably. While in this case, we might briefly like that outcome, we wouldn’t want the officers who would give us that outcome.
 
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Last year, he was arrested on suspicion of stabbing two staff members with a pen at an inpatient psychiatric unit.

"Suspicion of stabbing"? WTH does that mean? He was at an inpatient unit and stabbed staff members. Presumably they saw who did it right? Were they not sure they were stabbed?




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Mahad Abdiaziz Abdirahaman
Uh huh Roll Eyes


He's Chinese ... you can tell from the single syllable surname! Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:....
"I went to Mall of America to answer the call for Jihad by the Chief of the Believers, Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi — may Allah protect him — and by the Mujahiden of the Islamic State [ISIS]. ... I am here reaffirming that it was indeed an act of Jihad in the way of Allah."

Abdiraham then issued this warning: "I want the reason for my attack to be clear to this court and to the public, so that you may understand that you will never be safe as long as your country is at war with Islam. And that the threat of death [or] imprisonment will never deter us from fighting for the sake of Allah."....


Bolding mine.

There it is in a nutshell. So much for tolerance, diversity, social justice.




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"Mahad Abdiaziz Abdirahaman" -- I think that is a direct quote from me the last time Quaaludes were available.




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If Gecko45 and his RTF'ers had been there, they could have quickly put the situation 5x5 and waited for the 'heroes' to arrive.

Maybe he worked at a different large mall...




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Police arrested 20-year-old Mahad Abdiaziz Abdirahaman of Minneapolis in the stabbings.


Another Somali police recruit most likely?


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Looks like one of the guys on the rooftops in BlackHawk Down, no?


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