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Not necessarily, but the A380 was never designed with cargo in mind, whereas the others were and are well suited for it. There are other Airbus cargo aircraft. The A380 had a different target market, but it didn't pan out as hoped. | |||
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Thanks sns3guppy. Great perspective and info. | |||
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Airbus was developing the a380 to haul freight, but if I remember correctly stopped development of the a380f in favor of the airliner version. Yet another big mistake by airbus. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Airbus had an A380F on their website until four years ago, but took it down, and it was never more than a concept, with none built. They were taking orders, but without actual aircraft or production to support the orders. None were made or delivered. The cost of converting, were it possible, would eliminate them from viability. I suspect that somewhere, someone may try it, though. The A380 may be among the ugliest of production aircraft, so much so that it's chief form of drag reduction doesn't come from aerodynamics, but occurs simply because it's so ugly that it repels the atmosphere well in advance. My biggest beef, from riding on them, is that they were never built with enough lavatories, given the number of passengers. I even chose seats near the lav, and still had to wait in line 45 minutes each time. Cool, spacious cockpits, though. | |||
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The Flying Forehead. | |||
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That's pretty darn funny! | |||
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I flew from Berlin to Frankfurt 2 weeks ago. The gates at Frainkfurt Main were packed with Lufthansa 747-8s. Most of the Lufthansa direct flights between the US and Frankfurt are 747-8 routes. The Lufthansa paint scheme on a 747 makes for a pretty stunning visual. The A380 looks like fidos butt in comparison.   | |||
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I don't know how the 380 ever gt certified to begin with how could they possibly meet the evacuation time? [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Well...45 minutes. Because there's not enough lav's. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Well they did. I recall watching a documentary on the construction of the a380 and at the end the successful completion of the evacuation test. "...EASA confirmed that the 853 passengers, 18 cabin crew, and two pilots had indeed evacuated in 78s." https://www.flightglobal.com/n...ryone-off-in-205793/ ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
“Potentially dangerous cracks have been found on the wings of older versions of the Airbus A380 superjumbos - in yet another blow for the double-decker plane. The flaw was reported by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency which has ordered airlines to carry out repairs before using the aircraft to fly passengers again. It is yet more bad news for the plane, coming after Airbus said in February it would halt production of the aircraft in 2021 after just 14 years in service. In its directive, issued on Friday, the EASA noted that the cracks 'could reduce the structural integrity of the wing' if they are not found and repaired in time…” https://mol.im/a/7228187 Serious about crackers | |||
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My nephew helps build the wings in North Wales. Last weekend he advised me that they had already built the last ever pair of wings for the A380. | |||
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| Baroque Bloke |
Air France permanently axes its A380 fleet with immediate effect “The world's largest airliner, the Airbus A380, took a step closer to the aviation archives on Wednesday, with Air France announcing that it is permanently axing its grounded fleet and sources saying that Emirates is in talks to reduce remaining deliveries. The £164million superjumbo is close to the end of its production run after demand switched to smaller jets, and airlines including Air France have been idling the double-decker temporarily because of the coronavirus crisis. Air France announced a fresh 500million euro ($548.50million, £449million) writedown as it permanently retires its nine jets, just over a decade after becoming the first European airline to operate them.” https://mol.im/a/8341147 Serious about crackers | |||
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SIG's 'n Surefires |
I flew Emirates from D.C. to the Gulf, a 16hr flight. Amazing how claustrophobic something like that can get after 12 hrs. We were packed to the gills. As stated, the lavatory situation was under represented. By the end of the flight, that floor was a health hazard- yet there were numerous middle east locals (females) that walked right in barefoot. I discovered that 13-14hr is my absolute limit for an aluminum tube trip. "Common sense is wisdom with its sleeves rolled up." -Kyle Farnsworth "Freedom of Speech does not guarantee freedom from consequences." -Mike Rowe "Democracies aren't overthrown, they're given away." -George Lucas | |||
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| Baroque Bloke |
“The last ever Airbus A380, the world's largest airliner, has rolled off the production line in France amid a travel industry devastated by the coronavirus pandemic…” https://mol.im/a/8434373 Serious about crackers | |||
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Nobody is currently using them, and the cost to park them is a staggering $38,000 a month, and they need to be maintained every 2 days. The Tires were not made to sit more than 2 days without being rotated, and cost a staggering $90,000 a piece. | |||
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Brake assemblies and wheel halves, maybe, but not the tires. Not remotely close. I see 380's parked all over the world, and frequently taxi by long lines of them in Dubai, Hong Kong, Incheon, etc. Nobody is moving them every two days. They're mothballed. Aircraft have ongoing preventative maintenance requirements, and there are payments to be made, and parking fees. Preventative maintenance goes by cycles (times used, or takeoffs and landings, or pressurization, etc), flight hours, and also by calendar periods; to keep the aircraft airworthy, the maintenance goes on. Large airplanes that sit for any period of time will develop an unevenness in the tires; it's felt the during the initial taxi and works itself out as the taxi progresses. With heavy aircraft, one doesn't need to taxi far before the tires heat up from side wall flex and the unevenness goes away. Airlines use retread tires almost exclusively, with new tires inserted only when the retreads hit 5-7 retreads, or are unserviceable. In the meantime, the cost of those tires isn't close to 90,000 dollars apiece. The 40 ply 1400 | |||
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Just repeating what was reported on CNBC and repeated by the CEO of Airbus when questioned on the storage of the A380. Maybe it was $90,000 per gear set? The Airbus guy said it had to do with the weight of the aircraft and the tire actually deforming. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
$90k per set to include costs associated with the maintenance actions. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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There are I believe two airlines storing A380's at Alice Springs in Australia, and are charging the airlines $55,000 Australian dollars a month (per plane) for "storage". I know Quantas is storing their A380's in in Sydney, Melbourne, LAX, and one is Dresden, but is considering moving them all to Mojave/ Victorville CA. This story crossed my desk this morning: https://www.smh.com.au/busines...20200617-p553de.html | |||
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