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Double-sided hook/hook and loop/loop tape?

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January 19, 2025, 01:42 PM
RogueJSK
Double-sided hook/hook and loop/loop tape?
I'm searching for a specific product for a small project, and so far have come up empty (at least in consumer quantities).

I'm searching for double-sided Velcro-style hook/loop tape, but the kicker is I'm needing the same attachment on both sides. So tape with hook on both sides, and tape with loop on both sides.

(Similar to the ubiquitous One Wrap, just with the same on both sides, rather than hook on one and loop on the other.)

I've found a few manufacturers that offer these type of products, but their stuff only seems to be available in commercial quantities. I don't need 50 yards at a time. For example:

https://www.halcousa.com/produ...ed-molded-hook-tape/
https://www.halcousa.com/produ...ides-knit-loop-tape/

https://www.halcousa.com/produ...ded-woven-hook-tape/
https://www.halcousa.com/produ...ded-woven-loop-tape/

So the stuff does exist, it just doesn't seem to be offered to consumers by retailers. Does anyone have a line on some smaller lengths (inches/feet, not yards) of a product like this?

Color doesn't matter as much, although I'd prefer muted (black/brown/tan/etc.). Width anywhere from 1" and up, provided it can be cut lengthwise to custom widths without fraying.


If this doesn't work, I'll resort to Plan B: Buy some adhesive-backed velcro tape lengths, and just stick them back-to-back. But I'd rather not have the additional failure point of the glue joint if possible, as these will potentially be exposed to high temps like the inside of a car in summertime.
January 19, 2025, 02:33 PM
Kilroy2721
Not sure if this would work for you, but have you looked at the 3M dual sided lock tape. 3M dual sided lock tape
January 19, 2025, 02:48 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Kilroy2721:
Not sure if this would work for you, but have you looked at the 3M dual sided lock tape. 3M dual sided lock tape


That won't work. It needs to interface with existing Velcro hook and loop fields. So no proprietary fastener systems, unless they're designed to be Velcro-compatible.

(That product you liked to isn't double-sided anyway. It's adhesive on one side, and their proprietary locking system on the other.)
January 19, 2025, 03:03 PM
Mustang-PaPa
Just put it tape to tape to get the hook/loop combo you want.
January 19, 2025, 03:16 PM
kkina
^He said he wanted to avoid the extra layer of adhesive (hot car in summertime).



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January 19, 2025, 03:22 PM
pace40
Cut 2 equal lengths of each single sided and sew them together back-to-back.


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January 19, 2025, 03:31 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by pace40:
Cut 2 equal lengths of each single sided and sew them together back-to-back.


Well, I might, if I had a heavy duty sewing machine and knew how to use it. Big Grin

I could slap a few crooked stitches in by hand, but it wouldn't be robust enough.

quote:
Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
Just put it tape to tape to get the hook/loop combo you want.
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
^He said he wanted to avoid the extra layer of adhesive (hot car in summertime).


Yep. As noted in the OP, that's Plan B. Doable, but less than ideal.


For such a simple thing that seems like it would come up fairly often - consumers wanting to adapt hook surfaces to loop and loop surfaces to hook - I'm honestly surprised no company that's already producing this stuff has taken the opportunity to fill the gap to make a buck.
January 19, 2025, 03:38 PM
smlsig
Here ya go!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B...kmak3-us04aa-20&th=1


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January 19, 2025, 03:40 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
Here ya go!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B...kmak3-us04aa-20&th=1


That's the kind of product I was previously referencing as Plan B. It has hook or loop on one side, and adhesive on the other.

Not hook on both sides, or loop on both sides.

So I'd have to glue one to the other, and be left with the glue joint as the weak point.
January 19, 2025, 04:49 PM
Rey HRH
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:


That's the kind of product I was previously referencing as Plan B. It has hook or loop on one side, and adhesive on the other.

Not hook on both sides, or loop on both sides.

So I'd have to glue one to the other, and be left with the glue joint as the weak point.


I bought a roll instead. If you don’t want the glue to be the weak point, then you could buy the sew on type and sew it back to back or use superglue instead.



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January 19, 2025, 06:27 PM
whanson_wi
The closest I've seen to what you describe has the hook on one side and the loop on the other, with no glue involved.


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January 19, 2025, 09:14 PM
Greymann
VELCRO® Brand BACK-TO-BACK® Hook and Loop is a self-engaging tape with a high life cycle. • VELCRO® Brand BACK-TO-BACK® fasteners feature our woven Hook 88 and Loop 1000 products glued together for durable and reusable self-engaging straps.


BACK-TO-BACK® fasteners are also available with hook on both sides or loop on both sides for special applications.


https://troyerproducts.com/pro...e-quantity-one-roll/

https://troyer-products.myshop...o-brand-back-to-back


I saw this, but I know nothing about the company.
January 20, 2025, 08:08 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by whanson_wi:
The closest I've seen to what you describe has the hook on one side and the loop on the other, with no glue involved.


Yeah, that's One Wrap (that's the official Velcro name brand stuff, but there are a bunch of generic brand offerings too). I use it for all kinds of things, from wrapping cords to strapping stuff down to attaching gear. It's a great product.

quote:
Originally posted by Greymann:
https://troyerproducts.com/pro...e-quantity-one-roll/

https://troyer-products.myshop...o-brand-back-to-back


I saw this, but I know nothing about the company.


Their site references being able to supply hook/hook and loop/loop "for special applications", but their webstore only offers hook/loop tape, similar to the name-brand One Wrap.
January 20, 2025, 08:23 AM
armedprof
I would bet money that there is a local alterations shop that would do the sewing for a small fee...





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January 20, 2025, 08:25 AM
Greymann
I was thinking if Troyer says hook/hook, loop/loop is available, maybe your local RV supplier can order some for you.

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January 20, 2025, 08:25 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by armedprof:
I would bet money that there is a local alterations shop that would do the sewing for a small fee...


I had considered that. Call it Plan C. Wink
January 20, 2025, 08:50 AM
Mustang-PaPa
Years ago a local cleaners did alterations.
I had an padded ankle holster that I had worn out the Velcro on.
I de-stitched the old and ordered new hook and loop and took it to them to sew back on.
Might try a local cleaners and ask if they do or know anyone that could sew your stuff together.
January 20, 2025, 09:07 AM
4MUL8R
Your inquiry is indeed interesting, and speaks of the need to have both secure attachment of something, as well as removability.

You may want to ensure your Velcro solution is "the" solution. Most often when I find myself at a stopping point in a project, I challenge myself to think of another way. Am I certain that this is the only solution?

In that spirit, I wonder if magnets would also work. These can be purchased and attached with mild adhesive tapes, and are very thin.


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January 20, 2025, 09:25 AM
RogueJSK
I'm adapting existing sewn-in Velcro fields on some pieces of gear. Basically wanting to flip/reverse them (turn some hook areas into loop, and other loop areas into hook).

So no, magnets or other different attachment methods wouldn't work here.