Yup, this crap has been going on far to long. We can push back, don't buy their stuff, let them know why.

Just saw one from Terminix. "Did you make that call?" Doofus husband says, "Nah, we'll do it when we get back." Wife daydreams about bugs in the house and says, "Or, we'll do it now!". Cut to a female Terminix exterminator showing up and she and the wife giving each other a high five.

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As for bumbling white men, that's pretty much the theme of every sitcom since sometime in the late 70's and early 80's.

The 80's the dad/leading male still had some masculinity or, at the very least some sense of self, it wasn't until The Simpson's came out where dad was portrayed as a fool and that archetype became the standard which has continued for quite some time. From The Simpson's onward, every sitcom showed the father particularly if they were white, to be uncool, idiotic, out-of-touch, or disinterested. First it was eased-in with The 70's Show, Married with Family, King of Queens, Family Matters, Everybody Loves Ramon, to Malcolm in the Middle, Modern Family, and American Dad. I've not watched broadcast programing in over a decade but, I imagine what's currently on is more of the same.

I've got no problem with biracial couples and mixed families, its fairly common HOWEVER when EVERY commercial or, every other one is showing this same composition, then its forced and a clear intention to engineer social perceptions.

All in the Family and the Jeffersons showed men looking foolish in the 1970's. Those were the earliest ones to come to mind. In the 80's some shows depicted men ok, but it got worse over time. Different Strokes had a pretty solid dad, Cosby was OK but he was a little foolish, Family Ties the dad was a wimp.

On That 70's Show Red Foreman was a hard ass veteran played perfectly. The neighbor guy was a doofus though. The early Simpson's episodes had Homer as angry, but he quickly turned into the bumbling doofus.

Seems they are going for what gets the most viewers, and kids and women probably enjoy seeing fun poked at men who are often the responsible ones and disciplinarianss in real lift.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
As for bumbling white men, that's pretty much the theme of every sitcom since sometime in the late 70's and early 80's.

The 80's the dad/leading male still had some masculinity or, at the very least some sense of self, it wasn't until The Simpson's came out where dad was portrayed as a fool and that archetype became the standard which has continued for quite some time. From The Simpson's onward, every sitcom showed the father particularly if they were white, to be uncool, idiotic, out-of-touch, or disinterested. First it was eased-in with The 70's Show, Married with Family, King of Queens, Family Matters, Everybody Loves Ramon, to Malcolm in the Middle, Modern Family, and American Dad. I've not watched broadcast programing in over a decade but, I imagine what's currently on is more of the same.

I've got no problem with biracial couples and mixed families, its fairly common HOWEVER when EVERY commercial or, every other one is showing this same composition, then its forced and a clear intention to engineer social perceptions.

All in the Family and the Jeffersons showed men looking foolish in the 1970's. Those were the earliest ones to come to mind. In the 80's some shows depicted men ok, but it got worse over time. Different Strokes had a pretty solid dad, Cosby was OK but he was a little foolish, Family Ties the dad was a wimp.

The 70's had a lot of changes but, it still showed dad's who were principled and could lay out some fatherly advice about standing up for yourself. From Good Times, Happy Days, Brady Bunch, Bonanza all showed the main male character as somebody who was respected for their position, could calm the situation and provide guidance without being foolish or, outlandish. When those shows ended and went into syndication, they played well into the 90's. For all of Cosby's problems, his show Cosby Show was the standard for family television with well written stories and a competent cast for a chunk of the 80's; for many Black American's though, at best the show was aspirational or escapism but, far from the realty that Good Times portrayed.

Shows like Sanford & Son, and All in the Family showed a flawed father, however that father also wasn't quite portrayed as a push-over like you see today; rebellious & opinionated kids but dad was not a doormat. Jefferson's was a smilier-vein to Three's Company in its silliness and outlandishness, only set in urban apartment complex with a few more serious issues thrown in.

What the 70's did introduce was more female-oriented programing- The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Lavern & Shirley, One Day at a Time, Alice and The Facts of Life ,where male characters were only supporting, many times being full of idiosyncrasies and a foil or accomplice for the leading female characters.

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Speaking of cars, faguar sold a whopping 49 cars in Europe last April. How is that working out for them?

I saw that and was stunned. Then I remembered how horrible the commercial they did was. Oh, OK, that makes sense. Not sure why they would allow such a commerical to go out....but 49 cars sold, in total, is understandable.

You almost need a barf bag to watch it, they never show a car, although the rock seems close. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtFIrqhfng

They have an amazing looking car coming out...but showed all of that stupidity instead.....very strange. They need to turn that around or it's bye bye.

My assumption is insurance companies need a retard to fuck things up to establish the need for them. In this day and age, imagine them using a retarded black dude, a retarded Hispanic dude, or a retarded chick of any color… Yes using a retarded white dude probably causes the least backlash as we will shrug off the commercial and continue to use their product.

Boycott them I say! We need more TV dads like Ward Cleaver.

And Jack Arnold from The Wonder Years.

Archie Bunker and Red Foreman .

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Originally posted by corsair:
The 70's had a lot of changes but, it still showed dad's who were principled and could lay out some fatherly advice about standing up for yourself. From Good Times, Happy Days, Brady Bunch, Bonanza all showed the main male character as somebody who was respected for their position, could calm the situation and provide guidance without being foolish or, outlandish. When those shows ended and went into syndication, they played well into the 90's. For all of Cosby's problems, his show Cosby Show was the standard for family television with well written stories and a competent cast for a chunk of the 80's; for many Black American's though, at best the show was aspirational or escapism but, far from the realty that Good Times portrayed.

Family Matters and Fresh Prince were very good at this a well.

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