Submarine used for tourist visits to Titanic wreckage goes missing in the Atlantic
Darwin claimed a handful of people without breaking a sweat.
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June 22, 2023, 09:34 AM
pedropcola
If the submersible imploded which is highly likely they will never find it. One day some deep sea explorer will find two giant titanium coasters and wonder, “why are these coasters so big?” There won’t be enough of anything else to find.
The question is how long they will continue to pretend this is a rescue operation. It was never a rescue operation unless it had bobbed to the surface somewhere. Any other scenario it was game over from the start.
It would be easier to rescue someone from the top of Everest than from this depth. At this point we can’t do either.
June 22, 2023, 09:36 AM
RogueJSK
I can't believe some of ya'll are cracking jokes about this submarine tragedy... You've sunk to a new low.
Much like these 5 passengers.
June 22, 2023, 09:40 AM
parabellum
Yeah, I just sent a note to Snopes thanking them for the laugh coming out of their Musk obsession.
It's hard to believe that at one time, we relied on Snopes for fact-checking. Total frauds, these people are. Leftist propagandists
June 22, 2023, 09:41 AM
PASig
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Originally posted by RogueJSK: I can't believe some of ya'll are cracking jokes about this submarine tragedy... You've sunk to a new low.
Much like these 5 passengers.
Nice one!
June 22, 2023, 09:48 AM
Mars_Attacks
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Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick.
June 22, 2023, 10:06 AM
gearhounds
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Originally posted by RogueJSK: I can't believe some of ya'll are cracking jokes about this submarine tragedy... You've sunk to a new low.
Much like these 5 passengers.
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June 22, 2023, 10:38 AM
Ozarkwoods
If an implosion event occurred wouldnt the sound of that have been picked up by the mothership?
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June 22, 2023, 10:40 AM
HRK
June 22, 2023, 10:50 AM
jhe888
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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods: If an implosion event occurred wouldnt the sound of that have been picked up by the mothership?
If it happened early, would they have been listening?
Also, if the failure weren't catastrophic, maybe it was not very loud anyway.
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June 22, 2023, 10:52 AM
AllenInAR
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Originally posted by RogueJSK: I can't believe some of ya'll are cracking jokes about this submarine tragedy... You've sunk to a new low.
Much like these 5 passengers.
I missed the punchline the first time I read this.
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June 22, 2023, 10:58 AM
HRK
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods: If an implosion event occurred wouldnt the sound of that have been picked up by the mothership?
If it happened early, would they have been listening?
Also, if the failure weren't catastrophic, maybe it was not very loud anyway.
It's doubtful sonar would even pick it up. And if it did, it'd sound like... whales humping or some kind of seismic anomaly. Anything but a submarine.
June 22, 2023, 11:05 AM
corsair
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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods: If an implosion event occurred wouldnt the sound of that have been picked up by the mothership?
1) Only if the 'mothership' had a passive sonar operating at the time 2) Depending on the depth of the implosion, you'd still need to triangulate and plot it's location. 3) The deeper the depth, the more sound bends between the thermocline layers, which can distort and give imprecise readings. In military submarines, the deeper it can dive, the more it can 'hide' from any pursuers. 4) Various fixed passive sensors at distance will pick-up the sound, but only after lots of analysis of the recordings...again, you may hear it but, then you have to identify it, then find it. Was that a whale fart? shrimp orgy? crab molting? metal crunching?
well it seems what most people suspected from the very beginning is likely what happened. Implosion. Tragic, but that's about as quick a death as one can hope for.
I'll post this in any case:
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June 22, 2023, 11:32 AM
gpbst3
Im surprised no one is talking about the pooping conditions on the sub. There is a glorified 5 gallon bucket, at least you get to look out the port hole. A curtain is the only thing separating your from the others.
Im sure the bucket went out the window and everyone dropped a twoise in their pants.
Originally posted by gpbst3: Im surprised no one is talking about the pooping conditions on the sub. There is a glorified 5 gallon bucket, at least you get to look out the port hole. A curtain is the only thing separating your from the others.
What about it? Under normal circumstances, I'd imagine most people would be well prepared to go at least a full day or more without having to shit.
But I don't think the situation ever came into play here. The likelihood is that they've been gone since the very beginning.
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June 22, 2023, 11:42 AM
chellim1
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I'm sure the bucket went out the window and everyone dropped a twoise in their pants.
Someone should have told him not to flush?
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June 22, 2023, 11:49 AM
bcereuss
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Originally posted by HRK:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods: If an implosion event occurred wouldnt the sound of that have been picked up by the mothership?
If it happened early, would they have been listening?
Also, if the failure weren't catastrophic, maybe it was not very loud anyway.
It's doubtful sonar would even pick it up. And if it did, it'd sound like... whales humping or some kind of seismic anomaly. Anything but a submarine.
Someone would have to be actually listening when the implosion happened...but whether or not it would be heard would depend on salinity and temperature conditions (as corsair alluded to above). Strong haloclines or thermoclines can prevent sound from reaching different depths, and can trap sound in channels (sound channels).
The sound of the vessel breaking up would be very distinctive, and would not be mistaken (most likely) for biologic sources (and I've heard them all!) by a novice listener, and certainly not by a trained listener.
The key would be actually listening at the time of the event with quality hydrophones (at appropriate depths) and quality processing equipment-which I have no knowledge of whether ships in the area possess.
