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Originally posted by synthplayer:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Instead of offering to make those wannabe socialists share their gpa’s with other students, they should have been told that they would share the fruits of their education with less fortunates that can not afford to pay their way into college. Let’s say, “unable or unwilling”, to quote their heroine from the Bronx. You know, the actual poor people on the street. Then you’d REALLY see some waffling and backpedaling...if not some outright “hell no! I PAID for this!”.

Hypocritical little shits.

I suspect you're mistaken. Most college students today have never worked for anything in their entire lives. They don't know the value of money because someone else has always paid for their everything.

I raised my kid the way I was raised - he had to work for EVERYTHING he wanted. Since he graduated from college, his friends from high school have all either dropped out of college and are still living with their parents, or actually completed their "education" and are now back living with their folks. My son doesn't enjoy hanging out with them anymore because since they know he's working full time, they think he should pay for everything when they go out.

My wife and I socialized with their parents, and I shared the idea that I think it's a mistake to not teach your kids how to get a job, save for the things they want, learn the value of a dollar, and develop the self-esteem that comes from being self sufficient. They became rather angry with me and insisted that since they "love" their kids, they want to "help" them financially. I wonder if they ever think back to those conversations now - now that their kids are thoroughly dependent on them still - at age 25 yrs old.

I even shared with them an old parable that my father shared with me: One day, two baby eagles were sitting in their nest discussing how great life is. They talked about the excellent view they had from the nest high up on the side of a cliff, and how every day, mom would bring food for them. Yes, life sure was grand. About then, mom flew back to the nest and fed them. Then, she did something unthought of - she picked each of them up and threw them over the side of the nest. As they were falling to their imminent deaths, they squawked and asked each other why mom didn't love them anymore. Just at the last moment, mom swooped underneath them and flew them safely back up to the nest. They surmised that mom had just had a momentary lapse of reason, and they were glad that nightmare was over. But, to their utter dismay, mom did it again! "She's nuts!" they cried, but once again she saved them at the last minute. When she did it for a third time, they realized they couldn't trust mom anymore, and they tried to emulate her movements as she flew away, and they discovered they could fly, too!

I asked the parents, "Did the momma eagle 'love' the baby eagles by putting them in danger like that, or would she love them if she just let them live in the nest for the rest of her life?"

But, it fell on deaf ears. Today I wonder if they bought their kids the best of everything for status sake? "If Joey's parents bought him the latest i-phone, and we don't buy our kid the latest i-phone, how will that make us look?"

But, the bottom line is, almost none of the kids in my son's graduating class are out of the nest, and neither do they know how to fly.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Instead of offering to make those wannabe socialists share their gpa’s with other students, they should have been told that they would share the fruits of their education with less fortunates that can not afford to pay their way into college. Let’s say, “unable or unwilling”, to quote their heroine from the Bronx. You know, the actual poor people on the street. Then you’d REALLY see some waffling and backpedaling...if not some outright “hell no! I PAID for this!”.

Hypocritical little shits.

I suspect you're mistaken. Most college students today have never worked for anything in their entire lives. They don't know the value of money because someone else has always paid for their everything.

I raised my kid the way I was raised - he had to work for EVERYTHING he wanted. Since he graduated from college, his friends from high school have all either dropped out of college and are still living with their parents, or actually completed their "education" and are now back living with their folks. My son doesn't enjoy hanging out with them anymore because since they know he's working full time, they think he should pay for everything when they go out.

My wife and I socialized with their parents, and I shared the idea that I think it's a mistake to not teach your kids how to get a job, save for the things they want, learn the value of a dollar, and develop the self-esteem that comes from being self sufficient. They became rather angry with me and insisted that since they "love" their kids, they want to "help" them financially. I wonder if they ever think back to those conversations now - now that their kids are thoroughly dependent on them still - at age 25 yrs old.

I even shared with them an old parable that my father shared with me: One day, two baby eagles were sitting in their nest discussing how great life is. They talked about the excellent view they had from the nest high up on the side of a cliff, and how every day, mom would bring food for them. Yes, life sure was grand. About then, mom flew back to the nest and fed them. Then, she did something unthought of - she picked each of them up and threw them over the side of the nest. As they were falling to their imminent deaths, they squawked and asked each other why mom didn't love them anymore. Just at the last moment, mom swooped underneath them and flew them safely back up to the nest. They surmised that mom had just had a momentary lapse of reason, and they were glad that nightmare was over. But, to their utter dismay, mom did it again! "She's nuts!" they cried, but once again she saved them at the last minute. When she did it for a third time, they realized they couldn't trust mom anymore, and they tried to emulate her movements as she flew away, and they discovered they could fly, too!

I asked the parents, "Did the momma eagle 'love' the baby eagles by putting them in danger like that, or would she love them if she just let them live in the nest for the rest of her life?"

But, it fell on deaf ears. Today I wonder if they bought their kids the best of everything for status sake? "If Joey's parents bought him the latest i-phone, and we don't buy our kid the latest i-phone, how will that make us look?"

But, the bottom line is, almost none of the kids in my son's graduating class are out of the nest, and neither do they know how to fly.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:
Most college students today have never worked for anything in their entire lives.

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Which years did you attend?

'87-'89

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Originally posted by Edmond:
Those kids are so stupid they don't even know they're stupid.