Originally posted by FenderBender: A tax refund, is not inflationary they're real dollars.
That's true but we are broke.
February 19, 2025, 12:53 PM
HRK
Sent it to taxpayers, not everyone, just those that files and paid taxes, or will it also go to people who get social benefits and don't pay taxes as well. Could we really trust returning these funds to the bureau that it was allocated to and trust them to use it in a way to reduce debt?
As much as I like to see DOGE finding these payments, and stopping funding of ludicrous social agenda items like LGBTQ understanding for Nigerian media, or circumcisions in Uganda, what I want to see published is Who authored that expenditure, what bill was it in who passed the bill and how were they planning to disburse those funds and to whom....
February 19, 2025, 01:04 PM
Sig2340
A wind fall of $5K would pay off my house, still I'd rather the fed.gov under President Trump fire one GS-15 and one GS-14 for every dollar they want to return to me.
That way the savings will last.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
February 19, 2025, 01:32 PM
parabellum
These two examples are just from today, and showed up in my Twitter TL one after the other, and you can find lots of examples on Twitter and TikTok.
With Sean Curran now in place as head of the USSS and with Kash Patel just a day or two away from being head Of the FBI, there needs to be a message sent to people who issue such threats, in the strongest possible terms, which means investigation, interview, arrest, conviction and incarceration.
This shit must stop. If these people are going to publicly act like the fucking half-wits they are, they should pay the price, as a warning to all others. Threats against USSS protectees are not protected speech.
We should not have to spend the next four years listening to violent threats from stupid people. These violent imbeciles must pay the price.
By: Joe Schroeder Posted: Feb 18, 2025 / 06:40 PM EST Updated: Feb 19, 2025 / 01:37 PM EST
(WXIN/WTTV) — An Indiana man has been arrested for intimidation after allegedly posting threats against Elon Musk on X – the app formerly known as Twitter that Musk now owns.
David A. Cherry, 28, was arrested Tuesday by police in southern Indiana after he allegedly posted life-threatening statements directed at Musk on the billionaire businessman-turned-politico‘s social media site.
Cherry, a Palmyra resident, was officially charged with one count of felony intimidation. David A. Cherry (via ISP)
Indiana State Police officials were contacted early Tuesday morning by Texas law enforcement regarding an X user they said lived in southern Indiana.
Texas authorities claimed Cherry had posted threats directed toward the richest man in the world earlier this month on X, but did not provide further details. Indiana man named Peyton Manning charged with threatening to kill pregnant woman
Acting on this information, ISP detectives began investigating and found Cherry in Clarksville. After taking him into custody, police reportedly searched his Palmyra home and found the following:
An AR-15-style rifle A handgun Ammunition A ballistic vest
Cherry was then taken to the Harrison County Jail and booked on one count of Intimidation – a Level 5 Felony. He is currently being held without bond.
ISP Sgt. Carey Huls spoke on the arrest on Wednesday:
quote:
“Obviously it’s a situation where you have somebody makes public statements on a social media network for everybody to see – threats against another person – and that has to be taken very seriously. You know, it was just, December last year, (UnitedHealthcare) CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed walking along the sidewalk in Manhattan. Had there been some type of a social media post prior to that that could have been looked into and prevented something like this? So we can’t take those chances in this day and age to put something that’s very inflammatory, specific towards a person and just expect that to go without us looking into it.
It’s a serious offense. Again, life-threatening statements. Our detectives applied for a search warrant, did go to the individual’s house, where they found some other information that would relate to those statements to basically corroborate and say, yes, this is a possibility. This could have been his thoughts.“
FOX59/CBS4 is now working to obtain more information surrounding Cherry’s arrest, including specifics on the alleged threats made toward Musk and where Cherry will be facing charges. This article will be updated once more information becomes available.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
Originally posted by FenderBender: A tax refund, is not inflationary they're real dollars.
That's true but we are broke.
They ARE real dollars, but they are real dollars the government has already seized that would be introduced into the market. How would that amount of money not cause inflation?
I'm conceding that it is real dollars... I do believe it would be inflationary.
February 19, 2025, 02:36 PM
nhtagmember
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Originally posted by Rick Lee: If the checks only go to taxpayers, it wouldn't be as bad as when Covid money went to everyone. But it'd probably be better still to return the money via tax cuts and credits. That would result in less of a consumer spending spree.
I didn’t get a stimulus check after 9/11 nor the second one after that.
Not one thin dime from the Covid checks.
It’s my money and I want it back and I already paid taxes on it so fork it over.
I doubt I will see a penny of that either.
February 19, 2025, 02:53 PM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by stoic-one:
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Originally posted by bdylan:
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Originally posted by FenderBender: A tax refund, is not inflationary they're real dollars.
That's true but we are broke.
They ARE real dollars, but they are real dollars the government has already seized that would be introduced into the market. How would that amount of money not cause inflation?
Because those same dollars would be spent by the fed.gov rather than taxpayers around the nation.
If inflation is that big a worry, use ALL the money to pay down the national debt.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
February 19, 2025, 02:54 PM
12131
"The government is broke". The collapse is imminent. How many decades have we heard that line of bullshit, and they (.gov) kept on with their waste, fraud and abuse by stealing from the taxpaying Average Joe? If it came down to them actually refunding my money, I want it back. If some of you guys want them to keep your money that they stole to pay down the so-called debt, you can always send it back. Or, better yet, just tell them "No" and save yourself a stamp. No different than telling Bill Gates to write a check for the government, because he's always said he's not paying enough tax.
Btw, all these rooting out of waste and eliminating them by DOGE is paying down the debt. And, they're talking using only 1/5 of the money being saved to refund the taxpayers.
And another thing, DOGE is a one-time thing and will not be around forever. If you guys think waste, fraud and abuse will be eliminated once and for all, and the Golden Age of America is happily ever after, I'm selling an ocean-front property in Las Vegas for cheap. Even better, it's located right next to The Mirage.
Q
February 19, 2025, 03:01 PM
12131
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Originally posted by parabellum: These two examples are just from today, and showed up in my Twitter TL one after the other, and you can find lots of examples on Twitter and TikTok.
With Sean Curran now in place as head of the USSS and with Kash Patel just a day or two away from being head Of the FBI, there needs to be a message sent to people who issue such threats, in the strongest possible terms, which means investigation, interview, arrest, conviction and incarceration.
This shit must stop. If these people are going to publicly act like the fucking half-wits they are, they should pay the price, as a warning to all others. Threats against USSS protectees are not protected speech...
Throw away the key and let them rot in solitary confinement. These maggots need to realize that this is no longer FJB's DOJ.
Q
February 19, 2025, 03:57 PM
egregore
While in a less direct and personal manner, apparently some Dem "lawmakers" are threatening violence. I don't have to tell you what the reaction would be if Republicans had said this.
February 19, 2025, 04:17 PM
braillediver
I'd like to see some prosecutions / convictions come out of DOGE. I hope that's in the cards.
The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart.
February 19, 2025, 05:03 PM
rat2306
I could use that rumored $5K stimulus at the moment; time to go to the grocery store soon and I need eggs. Thanks, Joe.
February 19, 2025, 05:55 PM
Fly-Sig
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Originally posted by chellim1:
When it [Social Security ] "suddenly fails spectacularly" it will be part of the entire government and financial system that "suddenly fails spectacularly".
I fear this will be true. The entire house of cards will fail at the same time. The dollar will become worthless, the government will be in total disarray, and society will be in freefall. That's my "zombie apocalypse" scenario that I think could happen.
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Originally posted by chellim1: Which brings us to why it will fail spectacularly: It's a ponzi scheme that relies on more people contributing than taking out payments. It relies on an increasing population, which we don't have.
True, though it could be a minor drain on the general budget if it were nearly solvent. Meaning we as a country could decide it is acceptable for SS to run slightly in the red for limited periods of time. But that isn't what is happening, it is so very much worse than that.
February 19, 2025, 07:06 PM
sigmonkey
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Originally posted by rat2306: I could use that rumored $5K stimulus at the moment; time to go to the grocery store soon and I need eggs. Thanks, Joe.
Don't eat 'em all at once...
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
February 19, 2025, 07:12 PM
rat2306
^^$4.99 for four? Monday, I saw them for $10.99 a dozen at Safeway (not to drift the thread too much). May have to start eating oatmeal for breakfast with protection.
February 19, 2025, 07:14 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by Fly-Sig: I fear this will be true. The entire house of cards will fail at the same time. The dollar will become worthless, the government will be in total disarray, and society will be in freefall. That's my "zombie apocalypse" scenario that I think could happen.
Oh, for fuck's sake! Cut it out. Don't post that silly, melodramatic, fear-mongering shit in this forum.
