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January 19, 2026, 03:13 PM
SIG4EVA
Why do we care about Europe's feelings? Did you enjoy them praising Obama and Biden while things went to shit? Doing the opposite of anything they say/want is the right thing to do. Just look at the war in Ukraine.
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January 19, 2026, 03:53 PM
Fed161
Originally posted by GT-40DOC: I am sorry, but I don't believe a word that NPR prints/says about Trump.
Fair enough. Here are 5 different news sources that report the exact same thing. I could easily find a dozen more. I do understand your doubt about NPR, but the same thing is being reported in dozens of other domestic and foreign sources.
Economists have sharply upgraded their outlook for the U.S. economy under President Donald Trump, with the latest Wall Street Journal survey showing a dramatic reversal from the pessimism that dominated forecasts through much of 2025.
The January 2026 survey of 82 economic forecasters reveals recession fears have receded sharply while growth expectations have jumped, particularly for the near term. Forecasters now expect substantially stronger economic momentum heading into Trump’s second year in office than they anticipated just three months ago.
The probability of a recession occurring within the next 12 months stands at 27 percent, down from a peak of 45 percent in April 2025 when many economists panicked following the Trump administration’s Liberation Day tariff policy. This is around the average chance during the post-pandemic period.
Growth Expectations Surge The shift in sentiment is most pronounced in near-term growth forecasts. Economists now expect fourth-quarter 2025 GDP growth of 2.23 percent on an annualized basis, nearly double the 1.14 percent they forecast just three months earlier in October 2025.
First-quarter 2026 growth expectations also jumped significantly, rising to 2.13 percent from 1.47 percent in the October survey. For full-year 2025 on a fourth-quarter-over-fourth-quarter basis, forecasters now anticipate 2.35 percent growth, up from 1.92 percent expected in October 2024.
The upgrades suggest economists believe the economy is carrying stronger momentum into 2026 than previously anticipated, potentially giving Trump more room to pursue his policy agenda without triggering an economic downturn.
Labor Market Forecasts Improve Dramatically Expectations for job creation have also improved substantially. Economists now forecast average monthly payroll gains of 64,535 over the next four quarters, a 31 percent increase from the 49,367 jobs per month predicted in October 2025.
The unemployment rate is expected to remain near historic lows, with forecasters predicting a rate of 4.52 percent by June 2026, essentially unchanged from the 4.50 percent rate they anticipated three months ago and below the April panic forecast of 4.68.
The improved labor market outlook represents a significant shift from concerns earlier in 2025 that Trump’s policies might trigger job losses or economic weakness.
Interest Rate Expectations Shift The stronger growth forecasts have led economists to revise their expectations for Federal Reserve policy. Forecasters now expect less aggressive rate cutting from the central bank, with the federal funds rate anticipated to reach 3.08 percent by year-end 2026, compared to 3.34 percent expected in April 2025.
Long-term interest rates have moved higher as recession fears faded. The 10-year Treasury yield is now forecast at 4.15 percent by June 2026, up 45 basis points from the 3.70 percent predicted in October 2024. The increase reflects diminished demand for safe-haven assets as economic pessimism has evaporated.
Inflation Remains Moderate Despite the stronger growth outlook, inflation expectations remain relatively contained. Economists forecast consumer price inflation of 2.80 percent by June 2026, down from 3.03 percent in October, suggesting they believe the economy can handle stronger growth without triggering a significant acceleration in prices.
The improved forecasts come as Trump has pushed forward with an aggressive policy agenda including tariff increases, tax cuts, and regulatory rollbacks. While some economists initially feared these policies could spark inflation or disrupt economic growth, the survey suggests concerns have moderated as the economy has proven more resilient than anticipated.
From Pessimism to Optimism The transformation in forecaster sentiment has been dramatic. In the spring of 2025, nearly half of surveyed economists believed a recession was likely within 12 months. Job creation forecasts were weak, and expectations for Federal Reserve rate cuts were aggressive as economists anticipated the central bank would need to respond to economic weakness.
By January 2026, that pessimism has largely evaporated. Growth forecasts have strengthened substantially, particularly for the near term. Labor market expectations have improved markedly. And long-term interest rates have risen as the “recession premium” that depressed them has disappeared.
The shift suggests economists now believe Trump’s second term is unfolding against a backdrop of solid, sustained economic growth rather than the contraction many feared was possible a year ago.
However, the timing of the improvement—accelerating notably after Trump’s inauguration and as his policy agenda has taken shape—suggests forecasters see the administration’s economic approach as either beneficial or at least not derailing growth as some initially feared.
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January 19, 2026, 04:55 PM
bozman
I gotta tell you guys... The pearl clutching from some of you in this thread has become tedious. I cannot wait for Para to open the year 6 thread so that we can maybe leave some of this behind.
Also, that text has been reported as being a "private text" to the Prime Minister of Norway. So, the asshole released a private text. Shows how much the guy can be trusted, as if we did not already know.
I would not be surprised if that text was formulated to be used against old Jonas at some point in the near future.
How many times has The President caught these people in a trap that no one saw until he sprung it on the them (and revealed it to all of us)?
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January 19, 2026, 05:08 PM
trapper189
Trump is like Conan the Barbarian, but on steroids. We get to hear the lamentations of everyone.
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January 19, 2026, 05:20 PM
sigfreund
If I promise in advance to not pass on something that you intend to tell me, I have a (somewhat) obligation to not pass it on. If, however, it’s something like, “I plan to put a hex on the Governor,” and I believe you really have the power to harm someone that way, then my greater obligation to prevent a harm takes precedence over any advance promise made about what I didn’t know I was going to be told.
But, “This is a secret …,” and I don’t agree to anything, then I have no obligation whatsoever. Once you give me information with no agreement from me about how I would treat it, it’s mine to do with what I want. If you were foolish enough to assume that you somehow have the power to bind me to something I didn’t agree to, then you were … foolish (for lack of a more appropriate characterization).
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January 19, 2026, 05:34 PM
Carpentermaass84
quote:
Originally posted by Fed161: Originally posted by GT-40DOC: I am sorry, but I don't believe a word that NPR prints/says about Trump.
Fair enough. Here are 5 different news sources that report the exact same thing. I could easily find a dozen more. I do understand your doubt about NPR, but the same thing is being reported in dozens of other domestic and foreign sources.
As far as being a Trump hater, I did vote for him 3 times. I don't always agree with him. This in one of them.
Trump has already labeled all of the sources above "fake news" therefore anything they publish that paints Trump in a negative light is a lie. Please don't post lies here.
January 19, 2026, 05:42 PM
sigfreund
So, are we saying that there is no way the President could have said what he is accused of because it would have been totally inappropriate? I.e., that even we believe that saying something like that would have been wrong, and therefore the BS media must have invented the entire claim?
Just trying to understand.
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January 19, 2026, 05:42 PM
MikeinNC
Hahahahahahaha
People worried about what Trump said to some leader, about taking over Greenland.
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Inhales. Hahahahahaha
Ok. 1. Greenland couldn’t hold combat operations for more than 30 minutes. The US would roll over Greenland faster than the French surrendered to the Germans.
2. Did you guys just crawl out from under a rock. This is what he does. It’s the art of the deal.
3. Relax, sit back, enjoy a bourbon, and watch the show.
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January 19, 2026, 05:46 PM
sorenson
MikeinNC,
I'll follow your advice and take #3. And maybe a second one as well.
s.
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January 19, 2026, 05:47 PM
apprentice
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC: *Snipped*
This is what he does. It’s the art of the deal.
Fuckin' A.
January 19, 2026, 05:53 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by bozman: I gotta tell you guys... The pearl clutching from some of you in this thread has become tedious.
Yeah, it is annoying.
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC: 2. Did you guys just crawl out from under a rock. This is what he does. It’s the art of the deal.
And amazingly, there are those who still don't get it, because they want him to be more "Presidential"
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January 19, 2026, 05:59 PM
bozman
This is exactly my point MikeinNC...
And I do not believe for a minute that text messaging between 1 world leader and another lesser leader was not expected to be held in confidence. The President just revealed that Jonas and his countrymen cannot be trusted with respect to future discussions.
Also, I would not be surprised if The President was not sitting on a compromising text message or 2 from old Jonas that is now a bargaining chip. Tit for Tat... and Jonas would not have a leg to stand on in crying about its release.
The "Boz"
January 19, 2026, 06:28 PM
Fenris
Getting Greenland has been on the US agenda for almost a century. No previous President acting "presidential" has accomplished the task.
If Trump thinks that being bombastic and threatening will work, perhaps he is right. Time will tell.
Also, it might not be a bad idea to send troops to secure an unprotected territory while negotiations proceed.
Is that an invasion or just expanding our foot print?
Either way is fine with me.
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January 19, 2026, 07:34 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Carpentermaass84: Trump has already labeled all of the sources above "fake news" therefore anything they publish that paints Trump in a negative light is a lie. Please don't post lies here.
So, I guess Fox News also posted the “lie”, huh?
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...es-greenland-control Trump warns US can no longer think ‘purely of peace’ as he pushes for Greenland control President sends text to Norwegian PM after being denied Nobel Peace Prize, demands 'complete control' of Greenland
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January 19, 2026, 07:43 PM
newtoSig765
quote:
Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:
quote:
Does anybody here know or remember the strategic value of Greenland during WWII? Among other things, it was used as a refueling point for our aircraft being ferried from factories in the USA to Europe.
The Germans also had a refueling station there, for a supposed/purposed bombing attack against New York.
I forgot about that, but you're right. Shows how big and empty Greenland was then and is now, that both sides used the same island.
Imagine if Russia or China took up residence somewhere out-of-sight and the locals didn't care.
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