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The Trump Presidency : Year V
July 03, 2025, 12:00 PM
Lt CHEGThe Trump Presidency : Year V
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Originally posted by parabellum:
If I were such a company, I'd be shaking in my boots. It seems like it's only a matter of time.
That’s the real answer to the immigration problem. Make illegals unhireable. Don’t just stop at civil fines, but start locking up the people that hire them. I hope you’re right that this is the direction things are going.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” July 03, 2025, 12:33 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
If I were such a company, I'd be shaking in my boots. It seems like it's only a matter of time.
It think they are only at the tip of the iceberg here.
Companies hiring illegals that they can pay lower wages to and not have to pay taxes or benefits is MASSIVE in many industries. Two I can think of right off the top of my head are the restaurant and construction industries. Just wait until they find just how many illegals are employed by them, it's going to be mind boggling.
July 03, 2025, 01:50 PM
stoic-onequote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
That’s the real answer to the immigration problem. Make illegals unhireable. Don’t just stop at civil fines, but start locking up the people that hire them. I hope you’re right that this is the direction things are going.
Thing is, the laws are there and have not been being enforced. Ever heard of form I9?
Employers and employees have been faking or accepting fake documentation for years. All you really have to do is due diligence and enforce existing law.
July 03, 2025, 02:30 PM
konata88If I recall correctly, it was publicly known that even (senator) pelosi hired illegals. Or maybe it was Feinstein. Democrats have no regard for the law despite the thousands they create for us to be subject to.
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HRKJust ban them from the census, once they can't count them, they won't harbor them...
July 03, 2025, 03:54 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
If I recall correctly, it was publicly known that even (senator) pelosi hired illegals.
She was never a Senator.
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konata88quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:
If I recall correctly, it was publicly known that even (senator) pelosi hired illegals.
She was never a Senator.
Rep pelosi. senator feinstein. you're right
"Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy
"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book July 03, 2025, 06:37 PM
Lt CHEGquote:
Originally posted by stoic-one:
quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
That’s the real answer to the immigration problem. Make illegals unhireable. Don’t just stop at civil fines, but start locking up the people that hire them. I hope you’re right that this is the direction things are going.
Thing is, the laws are there and have not been being enforced. Ever heard of form I9?
Employers and employees have been faking or accepting fake documentation for years. All you really have to do is due diligence and enforce existing law.
I’m with you and am well aware of the laws already on the books. However any law that’s not enforced may as well not be on the books. My take on making illegals unhireable is specifically that we aggressively enforce the laws on the books, the civil penalties and criminal ones. We don’t need congress to do anything, just keep supporting President Trump as he pushes for tough immigration law enforcement.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” July 03, 2025, 07:51 PM
architectquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Companies hiring illegals that they can pay lower wages to
When I was doing large scale landscaping many of the workers we hired lacked documentation. But it wasn't to pay less, it was to hire those who were happy to have a job and have the opportunity to work for a living.
Our experience with US-born employees was that they would do almost anything to avoid work up to and including intentionally breaking tools so as to have an excuse for not having to use them, and not showing up for work without notice.
It was industrious vs. lazy, not lower wages that motivated our hiring practices.
July 03, 2025, 07:57 PM
Pipe Smoker^^^^
I’ve observed the same in manual laborers here in my San Diego neighborhood. Many are Hispanic, some are likely undocumented.
Serious about crackers.
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July 03, 2025, 08:31 PM
12131Many many leftists are going to jump off the roof, if this one goes through.
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July 03, 2025, 10:38 PM
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July 03, 2025, 10:59 PM
wrightdquote:
Originally posted by architect:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Companies hiring illegals that they can pay lower wages to
When I was doing large scale landscaping many of the workers we hired lacked documentation. But it wasn't to pay less, it was to hire those who were happy to have a job and have the opportunity to work for a living.
Our experience with US-born employees was that they would do almost anything to avoid work up to and including intentionally breaking tools so as to have an excuse for not having to use them, and not showing up for work without notice.
It was industrious vs. lazy, not lower wages that motivated our hiring practices.
An old friend who used to own a construction company told me the exact same thing. He said they work hard, do what they're told, and show up on time. He said he preferred those guys over any anyone else.
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Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster July 04, 2025, 05:54 AM
BassamaticYeah, we had our whole roof replaced last fall. There we probably 6-8 workers up there and all but one were Hispanic.
They were skilled and worked non-stop. We need workers like that and I would gladly welcome them into our society. They just need to go back and go thru the system..legally.
.....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. July 04, 2025, 07:29 AM
Jimineerquote:
Originally posted by architect:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Companies hiring illegals that they can pay lower wages to
When I was doing large scale landscaping many of the workers we hired lacked documentation. But it wasn't to pay less, it was to hire those who were happy to have a job and have the opportunity to work for a living.
Our experience with US-born employees was that they would do almost anything to avoid work up to and including intentionally breaking tools so as to have an excuse for not having to use them, and not showing up for work without notice.
It was industrious vs. lazy, not lower wages that motivated our hiring practices.
Yep. See how many white and black guys you can find willing to replace a roof on a house in the summer in the south. Or mow a lawn for that matter.
July 04, 2025, 08:30 AM
parabellumOh, look, an illegal alien love fest. You guys gonna get married?