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Originally posted by chellim1:

Don’t get Stuck in the Epstein Weeds, Instead Ask: Why is the United States Attorney General on Fox News Every Day?

I’m going to skip the nonsense Pam Bondi keeps feeding the gullible masses about the Epstein “information”, or whatever she is labeling it this time. Instead, I am going to highlight the purpose of Pam Bondi through a very simple observation:

Why is United States Attorney General Pam Bondi on Fox News every day?

The answer is because she’s performative, not substantive. Just as she saw her primary job in Florida as managing public perceptions, she is doing the same as United States Attorney General.

https://theconservativetreehou...ery-day/#more-269608

Really? We are going to start this shit already and start turning on each other?

Bondi is on FNC just like Democrat AG's were all over CNN and MSDNC all the time too. It's a friendly outlet, is that really a hard concept?

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Someone needs to ask the AG why these Epstein files have been sat upon for so long. Who has been blocking their release and why? Everyone whose fingerprints are on this needs to be outed and asked about it.

I think it is irrelevant. At this point in time, the Epstein files are not about justice, but politics. The victims have already had their day in court, and perpetrators have had their day in court. At this point, the Epstein files are about who else can be embarrassed by their contents, and not on legal jeopardy, imho. Much like the Trump tax returns, there was no criminal justice reasons to open them. If there was any thing illegal in Trump's returns, the IRS, or various state tax agencies already had what they needed to go after him. They didn't have it, so the clamoring for Trump's returns were purely political theater. In the same way, Epstein was arrested and is now dead, by his hand or someone else's, and an accomplice is sitting in prison for her role in the sordid affair. Revealing the Epstein files is now political theater. Not that political theater does not have its uses, but let the politicians use it to the maximum political effect, because that all it is now.

Perhaps but we now know who the sexual predators and pedophiles are so we will know if we have a registered sex offender living around us.

It is more than just knowing who is a predator. It is exposing networks and affiliations. It is exposing potentially compromised people who have power but may now be under the control of others. We, meaning us here on the forum, don't know who may have deeply damaging materials on very powerful people, but it certainly appears likely that Epstein was running some kind of operation. He didn't finance the huge costs just to be liked.

It could be that there are sub-groups of Epstein Islanders who actively colluded outside of the island.

Furthermore, we citizens have a right to know the character of our government representatives and employees. Their privacy ends where they engage knowingly in criminal activities, even if the statute of limitations has run out.

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Really? We are going to start this shit already and start turning on each other?

Whatever... I'm not a big fan of Pam Bondi but you can love her all you want. I wasn't a big fan of Jeff Sessions either. I thought Bill Barr was a good choice, at the time, but that didn't turn out so well.
I think Ken Paxton would make a great AG.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Don’t get Stuck in the Epstein Weeds, Instead Ask: Why is the United States Attorney General on Fox News Every Day?

While we have some agreement, I see it a bit differently. I believe that this is part of President Trump's pledge to be the most transparent administration in history.

I also believe, as you do, this is about controlling the narrative. The Trump Administration has to do this, they don't have an army of TV networks and major newspapers that will carry their message for them, as a Democrat would have. They have got to outhustle the MSM, especially in these early days. Open communication and a high level of visibility make it harder for the MSM to redefine this administration.

Bondi may not be a great legal mind, as you have alluded, I don't know. But if she can be the face and voice of the DOJ, and she has strong legal minds on her staff, in addition to a gifted boss, I like where she is.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Really? We are going to start this shit already and start turning on each other?

Whatever... I'm not a big fan of Pam Bondi but you can love her all you want. I wasn't a big fan of Jeff Sessions either.
I thought Ken Paxton would have made a great AG.

I don't "love" anyone

I just want people that will get shit done

Can we NOT start turning on each other 5 friggen weeks into Trump's second term?

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Can we NOT start turning on each other 5 friggen weeks into Trump's second term?

Chill out. I'm a Trump supporter. I was a Reagan supporter too but didn't necessarily agree with every appointment he made either. Did you like John Bolton too?

I'm entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours.
It seems to me that you're the only one turning on anyone here.

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
While we have some agreement, I see it a bit differently. I believe that this is part of President Trump's pledge to be the most transparent administration in history.

I also believe, as you do, this is about controlling the narrative. The Trump Administration has to do this, they don't have an army of TV networks and major newspapers that will carry their message for them, as a Democrat would have. They have got to outhustle the MSM, especially in these early days. Open communication and a high level of visibility make it harder for the MSM to redefine this administration.

Bondi may not be a great legal mind, as you have alluded, I don't know. But if she can be the face and voice of the DOJ, and she has strong legal minds on her staff, in addition to a gifted boss, I like where she is.

Yes, I can appreciate that.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

It seems to me that you're the only one turning on anyone here.

Ummm...you were the one posting that Conservative Treehouse article that was highly critical of Bondi.

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Ummm...you were the one posting that Conservative Treehouse article that was highly critical of Bondi.

And you should realize that any criticism of Pam Bondi is not an attack on you, or Trump. Her role has always been more performative than substantive. But, so be it.

If you disagree with the article, you can point out your disagreement with what was written rather than attack me for posting it.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
Furthermore, we citizens have a right to know the character of our government representatives and employees. Their privacy ends where they engage knowingly in criminal activities, even if the statute of limitations has run out.

I agree. My point is there is no rush, so no need to be antsy about it. Let the politicians extract the most they can from the release.

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Originally posted by DrDan:

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Someone needs to ask the AG why these Epstein files have been sat upon for so long. Who has been blocking their release and why? Everyone whose fingerprints are on this needs to be outed and asked about it.

I think it is irrelevant. At this point in time, the Epstein files are not about justice, but politics. The victims have already had their day in court, and perpetrators have had their day in court. At this point, the Epstein files are about who else can be embarrassed by their contents, and not on legal jeopardy, imho. Much like the Trump tax returns, there was no criminal justice reasons to open them. If there was any thing illegal in Trump's returns, the IRS, or various state tax agencies already had what they needed to go after him. They didn't have it, so the clamoring for Trump's returns were purely political theater. In the same way, Epstein was arrested and is now dead, by his hand or someone else's, and an accomplice is sitting in prison for her role in the sordid affair. Revealing the Epstein files is now political theater. Not that political theater does not have its uses, but let the politicians use it to the maximum political effect, because that all it is now.

I may have missed a lot but aside from Epstein and Gizzly or whatever her name is, who else has been prosecuted???
I thought this was all about a child sex trafficking ring perpetrated for years, yet only 2 people can be prosecuted and the rest just be embarrassed?
If This doesn’t run far deeper than two people doing things worthy of legally being prosecuted.
It’s a whole lot of nothing burger.

I will say it again. Why in world are you guys tuning into faux for crissakes. You do get that they are the new cnn

Gentlemen, keep this stupid, annoying Epstein shit out of this thread. Not one speck of it in this thread from now on.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:

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Weren't both Clintons notorious for treating their protective details like shit and regarded them as barely above hotel bellhops?

I've seen several documentaries on the USSS and the Clintons, best I can tell Bill was actually reasonably well liked, personable and not really that big of an A-hole. Unlike his wife who didn't want USSS or military personnel in her line of sight, ever.

I've heard the same from friends who worked for DCFD during that time.

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It is essential in a democracy for the public to have access to news about their government from an independent, free press,'

When you desire to become independent, which means independent of your political leaning, or party affiliation,
report facts without bending the narrative to your side, on that day, they'll send your shiny, happy ass a friend request."

Until then, work on returning to fair balanced journalism...

I’m sure CNN and MSNBC execs would love Bondi to come on. But they can’t find a host willing to after seeing other hosts eaten alive and spit out by Steven Miller, JD Vance et al.

An excellent strategy from President Trump, to allow Vice President Vance to be the one to condemn infringement on free speech in the UK, and in Europe, in his Munich speech.

https://x.com/PatrickChristys/.../1895198388045713556

Yes. President Trump is playing 5d chess. Last time around he was bamboozled into putting together an administration whose members were either outright stabbing him in the back, or at the very best were positively milquetoast in putting forth his agenda. He, President Trump, was leading the charge on everything going on and he was the biggest target with the swamp focusing their energies on defeating him. This time around he has a strong motivated team, a strong mandate, and a majority in both houses of congress that knows they better support his legislative agenda or have a darned good excuse for why they didn’t. Between Elon drawing fire as head of DOGE, J.D. drawing fire as VP, etc, the leftists can’t stay focused losing their minds about one person. Everyone in the Trump team is pulling in the right direction getting good stuff done for the American people.

I kinda wonder if it would be safe to avoid this thread for several days. Catching up on a day’s worth of winning is great, but I wonder if there would be danger of ODing on winning if one didn’t read the thread for several days, then caught up all at once. It still wouldn’t be too much winning, but it might feel like too much winning to handle all at once.

ETA: Ran into a conservative friend, John, who shares a mutual friend who, while she is a nice person and does a lot of good for the community, is a libtard who suffers from severe TDS. She and I never talk politics as she knows whatever she starts she’s going to get twice as much back with both barrels. Well John shared that on November 6th she sent a scathing email to his entire extended (very conservative) family. He hesitated a beat, then responded with a Reply-All, “When you choose the country that you’re going to move to, make sure it is a nice one where I’ll visit you.” His family couldn’t believe he sent it, but loved it. Sometimes you just have to let them know where the boundaries are.